Project 6-speed

[EldarO]

ive lifted one side of a JZZ30 subframe, and i think one of my kidneys fell out, i cant imagine what this thing would be like!

top work norbie! knowing you, you'll probably disintegrate this gearbox too

we must now redefine "doing a norbie"

Eldar.O.

[Norbie]

$3000+ for a 6th gear, I have faith you'll make it worth every cent

This has nothing to do with the extra ratio, and everything to do with the V160 being twice as strong as the W58.

I'd actually be rather impressed with myself if I managed to disintegrate a gearbox like this. Pissed off, but impressed.

[Mr Ed]

Ill be round at some point in time. I know theres something Im supposed to be doing on saturday but I cant remember atm so Ill come and annoy you instead. (Keen to see the spray booth too)

Be home around lunch time??

[Norbie]

Sounds good.

[BlackSupra]

I'd actually be rather impressed with myself if I managed to disintegrate a gearbox like this. Pissed off, but impressed.

I would love to be there (purely to spectate) when this happens and you require a rebuild.

[UZA61]

Cool conversion! And Respect + to you

[Kagetsu]

If Woon can run a 9 with those gearbox's and over a 1000bhp, you should be okay...

Take up Ballet and harden up Norbie.

[Norbie]

With the help of a few handy Toymodders I jammed a V160 into the transmission tunnel today. It's looking like it might not be a big deal making it fit - it fouled the side of the tunnel but only at the back of the box, there appears to be plenty of room everywhere else! Wilbo also came up with a crazy plan to use a W58 shifter housing on the V160 which might allow the shifter to be in about the same place as a stock MA61 transmission, which would be very convenient indeed.

Anyway if I can find the motivation I'm going to get under the car again tomorrow, grab a big hammer and bash it good. Stay tuned for updates!

[gianttomato]

Remember the slide hammer from inside option too mate.

[Negative Boost]

Wow, thats pretty awsome! But where are the pictures!

[gwh1946]

Hi,Does anyone know what year celica this motor belongs to ST204 3SGE ? I presume it is a 2 ltr ?

[Norbie]

Hi does anyone know what year celica the ST204 3SGE belongs to ? I presume it is a 2 ltr ?

WTF? This has no relevance to MA61 6-speed conversions, start your own damn thread.

Wow, thats pretty awsome! But where are the pictures!

I'll get some pics when I've done something worth taking photos of! So far I've only bashed the tunnel out a few mm.

Good idea with the slide hammer GT, I'll give that a try if I have problems with the BFH method. Hopefully I won't need it though, I'm trying to do this without pulling the interior apart.

Oh and I've taken some detailed measurements of the W58 and I'm in the process of making a basic CAD drawing of its external dimensions. Later I'll do the same with the V160 so I can overlay both drawings and get an idea of exactly where the V160 is bigger than the W58. Should be fairly useful info, I don't think I've seen anything like this done before. Maybe I can find someone to do the same thing with an R154 too?

[gianttomato]

Maybe I can find someone to do the same thing with an R154 too?

Didn't Stenno do this when he dropped the 2JZ into the cursed MA70?

[Norbie]

Looks like he was going to but didn't get around to it:
http://www.turbosupras.com/pages/en/...nical/R154.htm

However he did take a lot of V160 measurements which is useful:
http://www.turbosupras.com/pages/en/...nical/V160.htm

[Draven]

signing up.
I want to see this happen

[gianttomato]

Well, I do have one of each so I could snap some pics (well as soon as I get my V160 down from Sydney....)
Maybe someone could do the CAD smarts (I am teH suck at computaz).

[Norbie]

More pics:
http://www.norbie.net/Project2JZ/SixSpeed/



As you can see the box is mostly in the tunnel, but there are clearance issues towards the rear. Unfortunately there are also fuel and brake lines in the way, and I don't think there's any way I can make this happen without relocating them. With a PITA.

Currently I can get the box within about 2 inches of its proper position, and to get it any further I'll need to beat (or possibly cut) the sides of the tunnel out. I suspect this won't be enough to get the box fully into position though - it looks like the rear of the box is going to foul the top of the tunnel once I jack it up further. If this happens my plan is to remove the top section of the tunnel around the shifter hole, which as you can see in one of the pics is a separate piece spot-welded onto the tunnel. By drilling out these welds I can remove a large part of the tunnel and give myself lots of extra headroom, then later on I can close the gap with a new piece.

You can also see how the shifter linkage is in almost exactly the right position with the external linkage mechanism removed. If I can find a way to graft a W58 shifter housing directly on top of that I'll be cheering. This is something I'll investigate closely once the box is in position.

Stay tuned for more updates, I'm going to start butchering the tunnel on the weekend.

[The Witzl]

Norbie!

I'll be up in brissy on the 15th/16th/17th december. If you come pick me up from Redcliffe on the friday nite, i'll happily drink your beer, laugh at your efforts, swear at teh freaken heavy box, bash things good with hammers, and tell you that you should use an 18R-G instead.

It would be teh rox0rs.

I expect you to be 90% done by then.

[Norbie]

Sounds good to me. I'm actually planning to drive to Childers (approx 400km) on the 24th December so it better be more than 90% done by then! I'll be an unhappy camper if I have to drive the Orange Eyesore all that way.

[Mr Ed]

I work in Redcliffe. I can pick you up and drop you at Norbie place if you like. (As long as you can handle teh 2jz powarzz)

Off to drink beer and go bowling on the Gold Coats afterwards, otherwise Id hang around and bash some stuff with you but I'll pop in and have a squiz anyways.