Tightarse eBay rods

[dnegative]

Finally decided to get my 4AGE rebuilt;
Decided I want to run upgraded rod bolts, would go with stock rods but on the eBay I noticed there are a few places selling cheap 4AGE rods with ARP hardware;
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-4A...item2ebe4bf7bc

Any idea if they are going to be better than smallport rods rezied with ARP bolts? Pricewise, probably not a whole lot between the two.
Not going to be running over 8500rpm


From the pictures they look alright and I've got a feeling these Taiwan rods are probably being sold under a few upper class brands for a lot more...
I would be getting them sent with my block, pistons and main/rod bearings to ensure everything is within specification.

Will be running OEM Toyota smallport pistons and pins, anyone see any issues there? Obviously the Toyota pistons wont have floating pins.

[fixeruperer]

spool conrods are 420, just get them checked and resized. they are tried n true.

stock rods n pistons would be fine id think. if you get forged rods, ya may as well find a nice light set of forged pistons too.

[Sam_Q]

$420 is crap for something that needs more work done to it. I have Brian Crower rods that are not much more but are much lighter. Either that or I have some cheap rod bolts for sale.

As for the ebay ones I don't know. How about Belfab?

[dnegative]

How bad can they be if you get them checked and resized?
I wouldn't use them as is

[fixeruperer]

i havnt bought rods for a long time, when i was looking decent rods were about 1000$.

i got told the spool rods where good, just need to be checked. im happy with mine.

i would have still got the 1000$ rods checked too.

[aspheric]

I went Spool, mine needed to be sized. This is not necessarily a bad thing - cost feck all (80 from memory) and means that your components are matched to EACH OTHER..
Not a big cost in the grand scheme of things...

[allencr]

Will be running OEM Toyota smallport pistons and pins, anyone see any issues there? Obviously the Toyota pistons wont have floating pins.

Then obviously the rods will be press fit.

[dnegative]

Yeah, press fit wrist pins (which I fucking hate)
I don't know if anyone keeps stock pistons with aftermarket rods lol

I might be the first but as it wont be seeing boost or (hopefully) lots of detonation I don't see any benefit for forgies when I wont be making lots of power etc

[aspheric]

I stuck with fresh GZE pistons on top of the SPOOLs, kind of wonder why now :b

[fixeruperer]

im running genuine 8.9:1 gze pistons on spool rods.
they are dam tough and like 70$ a piston ! they are heavy tho.

[old_mr2]

I am using original pistons and rods, making big power. OEM all the way.

Personally, I wouldnt overcomplicate things with aftermarket internals, we are only talking about 100whp aren't we?

[takai]

I am using original pistons and rods, making big power. OEM all the way.

Personally, I wouldnt overcomplicate things with aftermarket internals, we are only talking about 100whp aren't we?

Depends on the build really. ~190rwhp tends to require a bit more than OEM pistons and rods

As for the eBay rods, the slew of them out there at the moment arent bad, ive built a couple of street engines with them. That said, if you are just doing something for the street i probably wouldnt bother much. Just clean up the rods you already have.

[old_mr2]

Maybe i am missing something here, I thought DNEG was rebuilding an NA and not boosting it. Where does the 190whp come from?

I am running 240whp on original rods and pistons @ 19PSI.

[takai]

Maybe i am missing something here, I thought DNEG was rebuilding an NA and not boosting it. Where does the 190whp come from?

I am running 240whp on original rods and pistons @ 19PSI.

My 190rwhp is NA. Im saying dont assume that because an engine doesnt have a turbo strapped to the side of it that it doesnt require beefier internals.

[trdee]

remember marty, revs *generally* put more strain on internals than boost does.