2ZZ-AW11 (and other silly swaps)

[3sgte]

I haven't seen this link posted yet:
http://www.v6mr2.com/examples.html

It even looks like someone stuffed a 5VZ in a MK II !

1MZ MK I link:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/527869

[Stefan]

I think you really want to go here: http://www.twobrutal.co.uk/

Once you register to the forums, you can download tech docs of engine swaps & read the member's buildup threads.

[c2888]

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2255550

pics of an american swap

[Vios-GT_07]

that was classic.. a 2ZZ in an AW11

but still....

how did the engine sit in the car? crossmember?

wasn't very detailed eh..

[mullett]

nope, no crossmember. East-west engine. So you'd just have to make the mounts fit up, I guess by welding new ones...

RM.

[Vios-GT_07]

nope, no crossmember. East-west engine. So you'd just have to make the mounts fit up, I guess by welding new ones...

RM.

hm.. fair enough... but isn't there a mount where the gearbox sits on? a straight bar like the ones in FWD cars, which hold a mount on the g/box itself.. sorry if i'm wrong but i'm a noob and can't picture the under-carriage in this sense..

thanks for the info

[Stefan]

How about.... a 4a-gze in your AW11?

[Vios-GT_07]

How about.... a 4a-gze in your AW11?

umm..... right.....

i got neg repped... crap.. i did say sorry if i was wrong and i did say i am a noob.. and yea it's not a crossmember i just can't remember what that stupid bar is called.. it runs north to south, bolts up under the car on g/box side and supports the g/box.. and yea that description wasn't very detailed but i'd really like to know how it was done in just a tiny bit more detail..

[3sgte]

umm..... right.....

i got neg repped... crap.. i did say sorry if i was wrong and i did say i am a noob.. and yea it's not a crossmember i just can't remember what that stupid bar is called..

And retaliating with a negative rep back isn't cool.

Your first post in the thread was "

2ZZ won't exactly fit coz
1. gearbox
2. drive-shafts
3. crossmber
4. engine mounts would be way off..

If you are a noob, you shouldn't be telling people something isn't possible, especially if you don't know the car.

Next thing is complaining about a guy who posts 5 pages of pics of a swap he did. Not enough info? I would have liked more too, but I appreciate what he posted, and I appreciate c2888 finding it.

c2888 got positive rep for adding to the thread.

Apologies to all for airing the laundry.

[CrUZida]

While the UZW11 would be a dream, I think an MZW11 would be the swap of my choice.

'Compact', 'light', and plenty of low down grunt to move the wee little car around very nicely.

[deviant]

I've heard of 2ZZ packages going for between 2.5k and 7k, and I've since learnt that Merridan Motorsport have one in their AW11. Sooo..it's doable! It'd be a damn fine drive, too

How about some other engines?

B16/B18
Mivec V6
Hyabusa motor (I think the box would smash with the weight...)

Keep em coming guys!

Cheers, RM.

A haybusa engine would be an awesome conversion but you would need to lose a serious amount of weight to make it work effectively. Ive been in a few bike engined kit cars and performance is literally breathtaking but those cars weighed in between 400-500KG with fluids.

Look at www.zcars.org.uk these guys specialise in bike engined cars and you can see that even with the Elise kit they are having to lose alot of weight!! I had a go in their R1 powered mini and its an absolute riot!

[adamaw11]

How about.... a 4a-gze in your AW11?

hehehe, as he already said, he wants to REMOVE rear-end weight not add it in, hehehe

Anyone know the actual weight difference between the 2zz and the average na 4age?
Would really be a good combination overall, its just a shame about the potential cost of it all.

My goal is to get performance on par with the 2zz corollas / celicas with a near stock blacktop 20v. Meaning just into the 14s, at about 150kmh trap speed.
With the right mods, I reckon you can pretty much have 2zz-like performance with an A series engine in a straight line, but we just don't how much the lighter engine will improve balance.


How 'bout a 3RZFE? way to heavy I'd guess, if only they were and alloy block.
Whats the biggest capacity alloy block 4 cylinder you can think of?

[JustCallMeOrlando]

2.4l Camry donk?

[Vios-GT_07]

ok here's what i gather

he's got Celica halfshafts, but still using MR2 N/A drive shafts
Still using the C50 gearbox (with a custom bellhousing?) i'd have thought would be the 2ZZ gearbox or from the MR2 Spyder
Issues with a transaxle mount and selectors.
Has a special mount so the engine sits up
aside from the battery being relocated to the boot it's pretty much done..
still unsure of a few things... but was very interesting!!

i'd have never thought of that... they're good engines 190hp and 6 speed box, strangely being in the corolla it's a bit of a letdown i'm not sure why. i'd take the 4A-GE over it anyday, but also because i've only ever driven it once. Blacktop 20V into the MR2 would ge sweet!! (with cams and quads of course)

[deviant]

How about a N***an Pulsar GTI-R engine? People stick them in FWD Pulsars all the time so im pretty sure you could adapt it to go in a mid engined car.
250BHP and quad throttle bodies as standard. gotta be a laugh in an AW11!!