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    Default Re: FAQ - National Code of Practice - NCOP Thread

    I want a v8 ke30 so much.. stupid RTA taking all the fun out of it
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    and of course campbell newman's completely fucking everything he touches so badly that he should be called dick fingers.

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    2L V8?
    hmmmm.....
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    could grab the EB110 3.2L v12 and shave off 4 cylinders, remove the turbos... then you'd have a v8 that'd be legal in a ke30
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    and of course campbell newman's completely fucking everything he touches so badly that he should be called dick fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven
    could grab the EB110 3.2L v12 and shave off 4 cylinders, remove the turbos... then you'd have a v8 that'd be legal in a ke30
    or you could just get an old alfa v8
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    Im putting harnesses in my ae86.

    I read through the rules in the NCOP documentation. Most of the rules are identical to the rules in the "Australian Design Rules", the only difference being that they were summarised. (specifically ADR5).

    I guess these NCOP's are just summarise the main points listed in the ADR. I did read in the ADR scope that the ADR are reviewed every 10 years. Perhaps this will be rolled out in 2009 (when the next review is due).

    If i was to TRUST any documentation, i would stick to the ADR's!!

    But thanks for this thread anywayz!

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    Anyone know the specific rulings on brake upgrades/modifications?

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    Thats up to the engineer certifying it.
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    Default Re: FAQ - National Code of Practice - NCOP Thread

    Weird that everyhting else is fairly specified, and brakes are like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeeightysix
    Im putting harnesses in my ae86.

    If i was to TRUST any documentation, i would stick to the ADR's!!
    ok, so you know that you can't use harnesses on the street then, since a harness is not a lap sash belt and is expressly not allowed. this is since sealt belts MUST meet the ADR... which specifies a lap sash belt..

    unless the seat blet ADR has been updated to allow more than a 3 point belt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan
    Anyone know the specific rulings on brake upgrades/modifications?
    the specific thing is that the materials used must meet ADR standards (ie no home made calipers and brake lines must meet spec)

    AND

    the brakes must work

    if the materials and workmanship are to the ADR/vague NCOP requirements, and the brakes work, then they should be ok.
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    Default Re: FAQ - National Code of Practice - NCOP Thread

    i think you can get away with it if you have your normal belt on over the top of the harness!

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    Ok, thanks. I guess i'll just run it by an engineer, show them the adaptor kit & parts beforehand.

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    When recently helping my son modify his car, we contacted the RTA directly and got no response.
    We did then email the online contact for help (my rta.com),and we recieved a detailed response relateing to our enquiry. Might be a good avenue for local regulations.
    Our local boys in blue are keen to enforce all matters of modification regulations!
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    Default Re: FAQ - National Code of Practice - NCOP Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick
    i think you can get away with it if you have your normal belt on over the top of the harness!
    I always believed it was due to harnesses not being self-retractable, hence could get in the way in the case of an accident and you were trying to get out of the wreck before the fuel-tank firebombs. Normal seatbelts installed in the car have to retract fully and cleanly for the car to pass rego, and you're not allowed to have rips or tears in the seat that could catch on your clothing, so I guess the whole restriction thing is the reason most harnesses are not street legal

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    Default Re: FAQ - National Code of Practice - NCOP Thread

    ... but can be left hooked up in car; provided that there are still full functional retractable lap sashes still in place; unmodified.

    but yeah cant wear the harness on street.

    ill be looking at adding eng. approved loop mounts at the harness points and clipping the harness in for track days. I dont do santcioned events so for support rather than safety this works for me.
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