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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    well put a rotory in it then that should go to 10000 ok, the 3sge will shit it self ,goodcrank or not ,good block or not. also at hand grenade revs dry sump might help it to last 30min at tops at that revs ,ps wheres the big kaboom

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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    The well known and respected Toyota tuning guru, Lynn Rogers told me a while back (while I was discussing 3SGTE mods) that the touring car 3S motors were made to rev to around 12,000rpm


    Anyway, at this stage, I'm just gathering ideas and thoughts before I decide 100% on what route to take. Always good to listen to all sides of a discussion IMHO. And like Toyota, I always like to over-engineer something I build.
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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    Talk to Neil Fraser about 3SGE mods and rev limits.

    From memory I think he said about 8,000 was about as far as you wanted to go on a standard bottom end, and 9000 on a worked lightened and balanced one.

    I don't know if its too relevant to talk about what the touring car guys did. Their budgets were beyond the imagination of us mere mortals.

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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    Not to take anything away from what you're doing; it's not like you're looking for advice =)

    But wouldn't an ST162 be a better candidate for an FWD 3S-GE tarmac car? It'd be lighter and require less custom work than the swap into the Rover.

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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    I'm more than happy for people to offer advice

    Fair point. However, the Rover was my everyday car before I bought my GT-Four so it made sense to simply modify that. Fitting a 3S is actually quite an easy task with minimal fabriaction required. The Rover was also rust free - finding a 162 like that would have been quite a task.
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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    One option to look at for down throttle injection is the SR20 fuel rail. Its quite easy to adapt, and from memory it has about the right spacing for the 3S.
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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    Quote Originally Posted by GT4WRC
    I'm more than happy for people to offer advice

    Fair point. However, the Rover was my everyday car before I bought my GT-Four so it made sense to simply modify that. Fitting a 3S is actually quite an easy task with minimal fabriaction required. The Rover was also rust free - finding a 162 like that would have been quite a task.
    Gary
    That's cool; the originality is nice =)

    I've seen quite a few ST162's and none have had much trouble with rust. My 1986 model doesn't have any anywhere on the body, unlike similar age twin cam Corollas, which are all bogged up around the petrol cap and hatch.

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    Default Re: 3SGE Powered Tarmac Rally Car?

    Some 50mm throttle bodies that might be a better size to make the kind of power your seeking.

    Checkout the following link...

    http://www.techmasters.com.au/forum/...pic.php?t=1088

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