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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    Looks awesome Rod, you are going to have some fun with that engine in there

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    damn, that's gunna haul arse mate... can't wait to see this one finished

    oh, and I love your plates

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    Love your work there mate. If the 7M goes in the Cressy thats looking more and more like a viable thing to do , i like it a lot.
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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    Nice work lads. Expecting more pics soon. Did you try fitting up the exhaust manifolds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gianttomato
    Nice work lads. Expecting more pics soon. Did you try fitting up the exhaust manifolds?
    The rear one fouled the steering box, but only just!

    Mos was hell bent on trying to fit it back up after the engine was in place but it just wouldn't work.

    I guess that leaves rod no excuse, but to get some horn extractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed_jza80
    oi!!
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    Stitt loves the 2J
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    Bummer I'll lend a 1JZGE manifold to see if that clears the steering box - all I'd want is for it to come back and some pics of it in place. How much clearance do you need to pass engineering again?

    That guy in Japan had a 1JZGE in his 50 series wagon but thinking about it a little more, I think his wagon might have been LHD negating all these issues anyway!

    Also if you're concerned about the exhaust being so close to the power steering box (and transmitting unwanted heat), then look no further than a Magna auto trans cooler for a beaut little power steering fluid cooler. You could also use one of the bigger Crown engine oil coolers. Of course, plumb it into the low pressure (return) side...

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    GT,

    Happy to test fit the 1JZ manifold for you if you like. I have had flanges cut and just need to get manifolds made.

    Hopefully between Xmas and new years I'll get some time to get it closer, I really am pushing hard to get it at Dyno day. Just a bugger of a tme of year as so many places are shut.

    The clutch fan didn't fit so I will be using thermo fans, biggest hassel otherwise will be a/c lines and power steering lines. Oh and having to relocate the dipstick ! Bloody thing is under the engine mount. radiator lines should be ok, not great but ok.
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    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToyman75
    Oh and having to relocate the dipstick ! Bloody thing is under the engine mount.
    LOL...yes I forgot about that! Took me a day to sort that out. I bought a hollow brass fitting, tapped it into the aluminium sump in a convenient place, then tapped some aluminium tubing into it. Then I adjusted the length of the tubing by cutting bits of it off at the top. I also had to cut a small bit of the baffle plate so the dipstick could actually get into the pan. It was an absolute bugger! Much swearing.

    As for radiator hoses, I used a Datsun 200B top hose for the top and an XA/XB V8 (I think top from memory) radiator hose for the bottom on the MX23 - same engine, same radiator so a decent starting place anyway. The XA/XB hose is a little big but with some decent hose clamps everything is happy - no leaks on race day. Not sure where the heater oulets are on the 50 series so I won't offer any advice there.

    PS lines are easy - I just had a big ass line (was about 180cm long) made to run from the pump to the box across the front of the car. Make sure they incorporate a swivel joint for you so that you don't have to worry about how the ends align. The return is easy.

    Food for thought anyway. Enjoy Xmas!

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    Gallery has been updated.

    I was going to use the MS65 engine oil cooler as the auto cooler, that should be a no brainer really. The dip stick mod I am very much not looking forward to.
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    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    Looking brilliant guys, this is a good write up, I'll keep checking it out!

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    Default Re: Engine Conversion. 2JZ-GE into MS53 Crown

    A quick update before I forget things.

    Speedo drive The auto gearbox on mine of course had an electronic speedo sensor (Engine package was from a 1994 JZZ31) which didn't work to well with the hitec 1970 issue speedo.

    As usual it was Mos to the rescue An RA28 W50 Speedo drive is a straight bolt in fit, same size gear and teeth count as the JZZ31 Auto

    A 1JZ-GE exhaust manifold is on its way from Melb to try and get me out of trouble with the headers in time form Dyno Day. No idea if it will fit but seemed like the only possible option.

    Mos and I started on the mission to get it to start at 11.30 am on Sat morning. Josh dropped over not long after and we all hooked in till around 2am this morning. Josh had to bail but finally at 1pm this afternoon the old girl fired in anger Not finished mind you but it runs After an all nighter it was a beautiful sound (angry with no pipes, But) music to the ears

    New pics on there way soon.
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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