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    Exclamation Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    A lot of Qs are always being asked about this engine series and I hope this is the place to clear up doubts and mis-conceptions!

    Into 71 - 77 Celicas here and any info I provide really pertains to these models

    I will try and be as concise as I can but feel free to correct me when wrong

    I've a lot of info that I'll cut n paste of the next few weeks/months or so and edit where necessary

    71 - 73 : ET was available

    71 - 75 : LT, ST, GT, GTV

    ET Celica : 1.4 litre engine T series - No number before the T

    LT Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TB (Dealer option twin down draught)

    ST Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TB twin down draught (Dealer option DOHC)

    GT Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TG DOHC twin side draught 40mm Mikuni Solexs

    GTV Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TG DOHC twin side draught 40mm Mikuni Solexs

    Full list of JDM and USDM spec models to follow.

    I know River (wealth of info) and others will contribute too



    Links for 2/3 T engine parts - Have funds will buy !

    http://www.brdracing.com/

    http://www.kameariusa.com/2TGproducts.php

    Eagle racing engines

    http://www.toycrazy.net

    http://www.japanesenostalgiccar.com

    http://www.toysport.com

    http://toyheadauto.com/PerformancePages/2TG_Parts.html

    http://users.chariot.net.au/~stmezz/2tginfo.htm

    http://www.ke55.1colony.com/

    http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~kyuusya/index-3.htm



    Have got 100s of other links on the old computer but need to retrieve them !

    Stay tuned...
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    Default Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here is what Uncle River prepared earlier...

    CLICK HERE!

    Don't forget to leave some rep!

    Cheers,
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    Thumbs up Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    By River in 2005 +9000 rep points !

    Saw a post about the 18RG info and it mentioned a request for info on the T series. Here's info on the T engines for the "2" range. Sorry, I don't have 3T specs. The following specs are for the 1973/74 version - which means it's the carby ones. Sorry, I don't have EFI information. Hope the following is of help or interest to you.

    I have included exploded views of the various T & 2T engines in this thread, This thread should contain enough information to allow you to identify parts of your engine, help assembly/disassembly and tuning.

    All are welcome to enter their technical input to this thread.

    Drive Belt Tension
    Fan Belt => 8 - 10mm with 10kg force
    Air Pump Belt => 10 - 15mm with 10kg force
    Air Cond Belt => 11 - 14mm with 10kg force

    Battery
    1.25 at 20Deg Cels

    Coolant Capacity
    Approx 6.5 litres

    Engine Oil Capacity
    Crankcase => approx 2.8 litres
    Total => 3.7 lites; 3.8 litres for the 2T-G

    Distributor Point Gap
    0.4 - 0.5mm

    Distributor Condenser Capacity
    0.20 - 0.25uF

    Ignition Timing BTDC
    T, 2T => 10 deg
    2T-B => 12 deg
    2T-C => 5 deg (10 deg for 1974 Californian model)
    2T-G => 16 deg (5 deg from April 1973)

    Idle Speed
    T, 2T => 600 - 750 rpm for Manual in Neutral
    => 600 - 700 rpm for Auto in Drive
    => 850 - 1000 rpm for Auto in Neutral
    2T-B => 700 - 800 rpm (same for all)
    2T-C => 700 rpm for Manual in Neutral (750 rpm from April 1973)
    => 650 rpm for Auto in Drive
    => 800 rpm for Auto in Manual
    2T-G => 850 - 950 rpm (same for all) (950 - 1050 rpm from April 1973)

    Manifold vacuum at idle speed (in mmHg)
    T, 2T, 2T-B => 430 for Manual
    => 430 for Auto (360 from April 1973)
    2T-C => 430 for Manual (400 from April 1973)
    => 430 for Auto (400 fromApril 1973)
    2T-G => 400 for Manual
    => 400 for Auto

    Spark Plug Gap
    0.7 - 0.8mm
    1.0mm for W16EX and BP5EZ plugs

    Valve Clearance - Intake Cold
    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C => 0.18mm
    2T-G => 0.29 - 0.34mm (0.26 - 0.32 mm from April 1973)

    Valve Clearance - Intake Hot
    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C => 0.20mm
    2T-G => 0.29 - 0.34mm (0.26 - 0.32 mm from April 1973)

    Valve Clearance - Exhaust Cold
    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C => 0.30mm
    2T-G => 0.34 - 0.39mm (0.31 - 0.37 mm from April 1973)

    Valve Clearance - Exhaust Hot
    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C => 0.33mm
    2T-G => 0.34 - 0.39mm (0.31 - 0.37 mm from April 1973)

    Compression Pressure at 250rpm (lb/sq inch) [Specified/Limit/Difference per Cylinder]
    T => 163.5 / 127.9 / less than 14.2
    2T => 170.6 / 127.9 / less than 14.2
    2T-B => 182.0 / 142.2 / less than 14.2
    2T-C => 149.3 / 127.9 / less than 14.2
    2T-C => 170.6 / 142.2 / less than 14.2 (Californian 1974 model)
    2T-G => 184.9 / 163.5 / less than 14.2

    Phweewww.... I got a lot more, including head warpage limits, valve sizes and clearance and everything you need to know. Let me know if you want more info.

    However, some of you are probably wondering what the difference is between these various engines. Well, read on and find solace......

    T Engine
    4cyl in-line water cooled, OHV
    Bore & Stroke => 80mm x 70mm (1407cc)
    Compression Ratio => 8.5:1
    Ouput => 93hp @ 6000rpm (SAE gross)
    Torque => 91ft/lb @ 3800rpm
    Compression Rings => 2
    Oil Rings => 1
    Intake Valve Opens (BTDC) => 16 deg (19 deg from April 1973)
    Intake Valve Closes (ABDC) => 54 deg (45 deg from April 1973)
    Exhaust Valve Opens (BBDC) => 58 deg (60 deg from April 1973)
    Exhaust Valve Closes (ATDC) => 12 deg (10 deg from April 1973)
    Firing Order => 1-3-4-2
    Ignition Timing => 10 deg/600rpm (10 deg/800rpm from April 1973)
    Carburettor => 1 down draught 2 barrel

    2T Engine
    4cyl in-line water cooled, OHV
    Bore & Stroke => 85mm x 70mm (1588cc)
    Compression Ratio => 8.5:1
    Ouput => 102hp @ 6000rpm (SAE gross)
    Torque => 101ft/lb @ 3800rpm
    Compression Rings => 2
    Oil Rings => 1
    Intake Valve Opens (BTDC) => 16 deg
    Intake Valve Closes (ABDC) => 54 deg
    Exhaust Valve Opens (BBDC) => 58 deg
    Exhaust Valve Closes (ATDC) => 12 deg
    Firing Order => 1-3-4-2
    Ignition Timing => 10 deg/600rpm (10deg/800rpm for Manual; 10deg/950rpm for Auto from April 1973)
    Carburettor => 1 down draught 2 barrel

    2T-B Engine
    4cyl in-line water cooled, OHV
    Bore & Stroke => 85mm x 70mm (1588cc)
    Compression Ratio => 9.4:1
    Ouput => 113hp @ 6000rpm (SAE gross)
    Torque => 109t/lb @ 3800rpm
    Compression Rings => 2
    Oil Rings => 1
    Intake Valve Opens (BTDC) => 16 deg
    Intake Valve Closes (ABDC) => 54 deg
    Exhaust Valve Opens (BBDC) => 58 deg
    Exhaust Valve Closes (ATDC) => 12 deg
    Firing Order => 1-3-4-2
    Ignition Timing => 10 deg/700rpm (10 deg/800rpm from April 1973)
    Carburettor =>2 down draught 2 barrel

    2T-C Engine
    4cyl in-line water cooled, OHV
    Bore & Stroke => 85mm x 70mm (1407cc)
    Compression Ratio => 8.5:1 (9.0:1 1974 Californian model)
    Ouput => 102hp @ 6000rpm (SAE gross)
    Torque => 101ft/lb @ 3800rpm
    Compression Rings => 2
    Oil Rings => 1
    Intake Valve Opens (BTDC) => 16 deg (19 deg 1974 Californian model)
    Intake Valve Closes (ABDC) => 54 deg (54 deg 1974 Californian model)
    Exhaust Valve Opens (BBDC) => 58 deg (56 deg 1974 Californian model)
    Exhaust Valve Closes (ATDC) => 12 deg (20 deg 1974 Californian model)
    Firing Order => 1-3-4-2
    Ignition Timing => Varied a bit, depending upon pre/post 1973 and Californian 1974 models
    Carburettor => 1 down draught 2 barrel

    2T-G Engine
    4cyl in-line water cooled, DOHC
    Bore & Stroke => 85mm x 70mm (1588cc)
    Compression Ratio => 9.8:1
    Ouput => 124hp @ 6400rpm (SAE gross)
    Torque => 113ft/lb @ 5200rpm
    Compression Rings => 2
    Oil Rings => 1
    Intake Valve Opens (BTDC) => 20 deg (16 deg from April 1973)
    Intake Valve Closes (ABDC) => 48 deg (60 deg from April 1973)
    Exhaust Valve Opens (BBDC) => 52 deg (60 deg from April 1973)
    Exhaust Valve Closes (ATDC) => 16 deg (16 deg from April 1973)
    Firing Order => 1-3-4-2
    Ignition Timing => 16 deg/800rpm (5 deg/1000rpm from April 1973)
    Carburettor => 2 Solex 40 PHH-3 side draught twin barrel

    Valve info

    We'll start off with camshaft info. I will include the "from April 1973" info (if it is different), but I'm not including the "1974 Californian" info, unless someone specifically asks for it.

    Camshaft Info

    T engine
    Bend Limit => 0.03mm
    Thrust Clearance (specified) => 0.07 - 0.15mm
    Thrust Clearance (limit) => 0.3mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (specified) => 0.025 - 0.066mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (limit) => 0.1mm
    Cam Lobe Height (Intake) => 38.36 - 38.46mm (38.85 - 38.95 from April 1973)
    Cam Lobe Height (Exhaust) => 38.25 - 38.35mm
    Cam Lift (Intake) => 6.39mm (6.28mm from April 1973)
    Cam Lift (Exhaust) => 6.42mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No1) => 46.459 - 46.475mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No2) => 46.209 - 46.225mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No3) => 45.959 - 45.975mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No4) => 45.459 - 45.475mm

    2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Bend Limit => 0.03mm
    Thrust Clearance (specified) => 0.07 - 0.15mm
    Thrust Clearance (limit) => 0.3mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (specified) => 0.025 - 0.066mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (limit) => 0.1mm
    Cam Lobe Height (Intake) => 38.36 - 38.46mm
    Cam Lobe Height (Exhaust) => 38.25 - 38.35mm
    Cam Lift (Intake) => 6.39mm
    Cam Lift (Exhaust) => 6.42mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No1) => 46.459 - 46.475mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No2) => 46.209 - 46.225mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No3) => 45.959 - 45.975mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No4) => 45.459 - 45.475mm

    2T-G engine
    Bend Limit => 0.02mm
    Thrust Clearance (specified) => 0.15 - 0.30mm
    Thrust Clearance (limit) => 0.4mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (specified) => 0.030 - 0.067mm
    Bearing Oil Clearance (limit) => 0.1mm
    Cam Lobe Height (Intake) => 45.87 - 45.97mm (46.37 - 46.47 from April 1973)
    Cam Lobe Height (Exhaust) => 45.87 - 45.97mm (46.37 - 46.47 from April 1973)
    Cam Lift (Intake) => 9.82mm (10.27mm from April 1973)
    Cam Lift (Exhaust) => 9.82mm (10.27 from April 1973)
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No1) => 31.954 - 31.970mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No2) => 31.954 - 31.970mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No3) => 31.954 - 31.970mm
    Camshaft Journal Finished Diameter (No4) => 31.954 - 31.970mm

    Generic Valve Information

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Intake valve head diameter => 41mm
    Exhaust valve head diameter => 36mm
    Intake valve overall length (specified) => 109mm
    Intake valve overall length (limit) => 108.5mm
    Exhaust valve overall length (specified) => 109mm
    Exhaust valve overall length (limit) => 108.5mm
    Valve stem diameter (Intake) => 7.97 - 7.99mm
    Valve stem diamter (Exhaust) => 7.97 - 7.98mm
    Intake valve stem-to-bushing clearance (specified) => 0.025 - 0.060mm
    Intake valve stem-to-bushing clearance (limit) => 0.08mm
    Exhaust valve stem-to-bushing clearance (specified) => 0.030 - 0.065mm
    Exhaust valve stem-to-bushing clearance (limit) => 0.10mm
    Valve head thickness (Intake) => 0.50mm
    Valve head thickness (Exhaust) => 0.70mm
    Contact Valve face angle => 45deg

    2T-G engine
    Intake valve head diameter => 43mm (44.5mm from April 1973)
    Exhaust valve head diameter => 37mm (38.5mm from April 1973)
    Intake valve overall length (specified) => 106.7mm (106.2mm from April 1973)
    Intake valve overall length (limit) => 106.2mm (105.7mm from April 1973)
    Exhaust valve overall length (specified) => 105.4mm (105mm from April 1973)
    Exhaust valve overall length (limit) => 104.9mm (104.5mm from April 1973)
    Valve stem diameter (Intake) => 8.46 - 8.48mm
    Valve stem diamter (Exhaust) => 8.45 - 8.46mm
    Intake valve stem-to-bushing clearance (specified) => 0.020 - 0.037mm
    Intake valve stem-to-bushing clearance (limit) => 0.08mm
    Exhaust valve stem-to-bushing clearance (specified) => 0.055 - 0.060mm
    Exhaust valve stem-to-bushing clearance (limit) => 0.10mm
    Valve head thickness (Intake) => 0.50mm
    Valve head thickness (Exhaust) => 0.60mm
    Contact Valve face angle => 45deg


    Valve Guide Bushing Information

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Bushing Inner diameter => 8.01 - 8.03mm
    Bushing Outer diameter (Standard) => 13.04 - 13.05mm
    Bushing Outer diameter (Oversize) => 13.09 - 13.10mm
    Bushing replacment temperature => 80deg Cels
    Bushing protruded length from cylinder head => Drive in valve guide bushing until snap ring contact with cylinder head.

    2T-G engine
    Bushing Inner diameter => 8.51 - 8.52mm
    Bushing Outer diameter (Standard) => 14.02 - 14.03mm
    Bushing Outer diameter (Oversize) => 14.07 - 14.08m
    Bushing replacment temperature => 80deg Cels
    Bushing protruded length from cylinder head => Drive in valve guide bushing until snap ring contact with cylinder head.


    Valve Spring Information

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Free length => 42.1mm
    Installed length => 37.7mm
    Spring Installed tension (specified) => 58lb (26.3kg)
    Spring Installed tension (limit) => 53.6lb (24.3kg)
    Squareness limit => 1.9mm

    2T-G engines
    Free length => 45.6mm
    Installed length => 39.0mm
    Spring Installed tension (specified) => 77.2lb (35.0kg)
    Spring Installed tension (limit) => 65.0lb (29.5kg)
    Squareness limit => 1.6mm


    Valve Rocker Shaft Arm

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C and 2T-G engines
    Valve rocker shaft outer diameter => 15.97 - 15.99mm
    Shaft to arm oil clearance => 0.02 - 0.04mm


    Valve Lifter

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Outer diameter (Standard) => 22.179 - 22.199mm
    Outer diameter (Oversize) => 22.229 - 22.249mm
    Oil Clearance (specified) => 0.02 - 0.03mm
    Oil Clearance (limit) => 0.10mm

    2T-G engine
    Outer diameter (Standard) => 237.925 - 37.931mm (Black)
    Outer diameter (Standard) => 37.931 - 37.937mm (Blue)
    Outer diameter (Standard) => 37.937 - 37.943mm (Yellow)
    Outer diameter (Standard) => 37.943 - 37.949mm (Red)
    Oil Clearance (specified) => 0.02 - 0.03mm
    Oil Clearance (limit) => 0.10mm

    Engine Specified Parts Tightening Torque
    Crankshaft bearing cap to cylinder block => 7.2 - 8.8 m-kg (52.1 - 63.7 ft-lb)
    Connecting rod cap to connecting rod => 4.0 - 5.0 m-kg (28.9 - 36.3 ft-lb)
    Camshaft thrust plate to cylinder head => 1.0 - 1.6 m-kg (7.2 - 11.6 ft-lb)
    Timing chain cover to cylinder block => 1.0 - 1.6 m-kg (7.2 - 11.6 ft-lb)
    Oil pump to cylinder block => 1.7 - 2.6 m-kg (12.3 - 18.8 ft-lb)
    Chain tensioner union bolt to cylinder block (2T-G) => 1.0 -1.6 m-kg (7.2 - 11.6 ft-lb)
    Crankshaft puller to crankshaft => 4.0 - 6.0 m-kg (28.9 - 43.4 ft-lb)
    Cylinder head to cylinder block => 7.2 - 8.8 m-kg (52.1 - 63.7 ft-lb)
    Camshaft timing gear to camshaft => 7.0 - 11.0 m-kg (50.6 -79.6 ft-lb)
    Valve rocker support to cylinder head => 7.2 - 8.8 m-kg (52.1 - 63.7 lb-ft)
    Manifold to cylinder head => 1.0 - 1.6 m-kg (7.2 - 11.6 ft-lb)
    Cylinder head cover to cylinder head => 0.4 - 0.7 m-kg (2.9 - 5.1 ft-lb)
    Oil pan to cylinder block => 0.5 - 0.8 m-kg (3.6 - 5.8 ft-lb)
    Oil pan drain plug to oil pan => 3.0 - 4.0 m-kg (21.7 - 28.9 ft-lb)
    Spark plug to cylinder head => 1.5 - 2.1 m-kg (10.9 - 15.2 ft-lb)
    Flywheel to crankshaft => 5.8 - 6.6 m-kg (42.0 - 47.7 ft-lb)
    Flywheel to crankshaft (2T-G) => 7.7 - 8.3 m-kg (55.7 - 60.0 ft-lb)
    Clutch cover to flywheel => 1.5 - 2.0 m-kg (10.9 - 14.5 ft-lb)
    Clutch housing to cylinder block => 4.8 - 6.8 m-kg (34.7 - 49.2 ft-lb)


    Spark Plugs
    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C => 0.7 - 0.8mm => Denso W16EP or NGK BP5ES-L
    2T-G => 1.0mm => Denso W16EX or NGK BP5EZ
    2T-G => 0.7 - 0.8mm => Denso W16EP-G

    Ignition Coil
    Primary coil resistance => 3.3 ohms
    Secondary coil resistance => 8500 ohms


    Timing Chain and Timing Gear

    T, 2T, 2T-B, 2T-C engines
    Chain deflection limit (No1) => 13.5mm with 10kg force
    Chain deflection limit (No2) => 13.5mm with 10kg force
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 1) => 5.0mm
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 2) => 5.0mm
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 3) => 5.0mm
    Tensioner plunger head thickness limit => 12.5mm
    Clearance between chain tensioner No1 and chain => 0.5 - 1.0mm
    Chain tensioner No2 back stroke => 0.5 - 1.0mm
    Crankshaft timing gear wear limit => 59.4mm with chain
    Camshaft timing gear wear limit => 113.8mm with chain
    Camshaft drive gear & camshaft gear limit => 113.8mm with chain

    2T-G engine
    Chain deflection limit (No1) => 13.5mm with 10kg force
    Chain deflection limit (No2) => 75.0mm with 10kg force
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 1) => 5.0mm
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 2) => 5.5mm
    Vibration damper thickness limit (No 3) => 6.5mm
    Tensioner plunger head thickness limit => 7.5mm
    Clearance between chain tensioner No1 and chain => 0.5 - 1.0mm
    Chain tensioner No2 back stroke => 0.5 - 1.0mm
    Crankshaft timing gear wear limit => 60.0mm with chain
    Camshaft timing gear wear limit => 114.5mm with chain
    Camshaft drive gear & camshaft gear limit => 78.2mm with chain

    Clylinder Head
    Cylinder Head Warpage Limit => 0.05mm
    Gasket Thickness => 1.5mm
    Valve Seat Contacting Surface Angle => 45deg
    Valve Seat Contacting Width => 1.4mm
    Valve Seat Refacing Angle (Intake & Exhaust) = > 30deg, 45deg, 60deg

    Cylinder Block
    Cylinder Head Warpage Limit = > 0.05mm
    Valve Lift Bore Diameter (standard) => 22.200 - 22.221mm
    Valve Lift Bore Diamter (oversize) => 22.250 - 22.271mm

    Cylinder
    Inner Diameter (T engine) => 80.00 - 80.05mm
    Inner Diameter (2T, 2T-B, 2T-C & 2T-G engines) => 85.00 - 85.05mm
    Wear Limit => 0.2mm
    Horning Amount = > Less than 0.02mm
    Taper, out of round limit = > 0.02mm
    Difference of bore between cylinders = > 0.05mm

    Piston
    Piston Outer Diameter (standard) => 79.94 - 79.99mm
    Piston Outer Diameter (oversize) => 84.94 - 84.99mm
    Cylinder to Piston clearance => 0.05mm
    Piston pin installing temperature => 20deg C
    Piston ring end gap (Compression Ring No 1) => 0.2 - 0.4mm
    Piston ring end gap (Compression Ring No 2) => 0.1 - 0.3mm
    Piston ring to ring groove clearance (Compression RIng No 1) => 0.020 - 0.060mm
    Piston ring to ring groove clearance (Compression RIng No 2) => 0.015 - 0.055mm
    Piston ring diameter => 22.00 - 22.01mm

    Connecting Rod
    Connecting Rod Bend limit (per 100mm) => 0.05mm
    Connecting Rod Twist limit (per 100mm) => 0.05mm
    Big end thrust clearance => 0.16 - 0.26mm
    Big end thrust clearance limit => 0.3mm
    Bearing oil clearance => 0.024 - 0.048mm

    Crankshaft
    Bend limit => 0.03mm
    Thrust clearance => 0.07 - 0.18mm
    Thrust clearance limit => 0.3mm
    Taper and out of round limit => 0.3mm
    Journal finished diameter (standard) => 57.975 - 58.000mm
    Journal oil clearance => 0.032 - 0.056mm
    Crankpin finished diameter (standard) => 49.976 - 48.00mm
    Crankpin oil clearance => 0.024 - 0.048mm

    Flywheel
    Run-out limit => 0.1mm

    Oil temp should be 100 degrees Cels
    Oil specification should be SAE No.30

    Oil pressure @ idle speed should be more than 0.8kg/cm2 (1.1 psi)
    Oil pressure @ 2000rpm should be 3.5 - 4.6kg/cm2 (49.8 - 64.0 psi)
    Oil pressure @ 5000rpm should be 4.0 - 5.0kg/cm2 (56.9 - 71.1psi)




    Well, that's a good healthy read for you. I hope you enjoyed it.
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    Cool Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    The other reason for this thread (title change?) will be tech info on T series conversions (not 4AGE etc) + gearbox conv and other useful info all boxed up neatly in the one thread

    I know a fair bit as so does my Son scoobzd and MANY other people here.

    So hopefully this will be of instant value to all 2-T enthusiasts out there

    More to come...
    Last edited by toyboyracer; 01-07-2010 at 07:39 PM.

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    Arrow Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Okay, le'ts start with "HOW do I convert my 2-T / 3-T into a 2-TG/EU ?

    Simple answer is DON'T !

    Buy a 2-TG/EU and re-build it

    Or if all the parts are supplied as in EVERYTHING bar the block, GO FOR IT

    Stay away from the 71 - 72 (73?) 2-TG heads as they have no internal webbing (strength) around the valves

    Will look for pics to show differences - Numbers on the early and late heads will be posted soon !

    General non supplied bits are :

    Pistons, 2-TG pistons have bigger valve reliefs in them LOOK HERE !

    2-T / 3-T can be milled for the reliefs

    Dummy cam, this is what's used in place of the side cam shaft

    Timing cover is different

    Timing chain

    Tensioners / rubbing blocks will be severely worn

    Thermostat housing is different and the outlet pipe too but 2-T pipe is usable (pic to follow)

    Inlet manifold is different, exhaust is the same

    G series oil pump is a higher volume but stock will work - No insane revving though !

    Correct 2-TG/EU housing and pipe FACING forwards



    2-T setup



    2-T pipe on 2-TG/EU with appropriate hose !



    A bit uglier BUT easy as to get from Repco etc



    Will edit this for other differences later
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    Exclamation Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    W series onto a 2-T / 3-T

    BTW, there are MANY shifter positions pertaining to W series gearboxes !

    For all the info go here - http://www.retrotech.co.nz/Tech/Toyota-boxes.php

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    As most already know you need a :

    W series box - 50 / 55 / 57 / 58

    1 - G bell housing and fork and slave cylinder, 1-G starter (makes it easier than a 2-T

    71 - 77 series AUTO tail shaft and AUTO rear gearbox X member.

    4 types of auto X members can be used - TA-22, TA-23 or RA-23 / RA-28

    Here's the difference



    TA-23 or RA-23 / RA-28 are on the top and TA-22 bottom





    YES they look nothing like the HUGE one you just pulled out - LOL

    Everyone chases the 22 member BUT the 23 version is BETTER (stronger) with no mods
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    Default Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Hi, what exactly do i need to do a manual conversion in my 2t (ta22)?

    What parts?

    are they easy to find?

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    Thumbs up Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Gearbox and bell housing/clutch fork and throwout bearing

    Clutch slave cylinder and push rod + clutch line to master cylinder

    Manual pedal box

    Clutch master cylinder and push rod

    Flywheel

    Spigot bearing that goes in the end of the crankshaft

    Manual tailshaft

    Manual gearbox X member

    Oh and the manual speedo cable !

    A 5 speed console finishes it all off

    Easy to find ?

    Anyone else want to chime in here....
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    Default Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    1G-GTE flywheel is a dierect bolt on to a 2/3tc motor for a larger clutch setup.
    will fit in a T or W series bellhousing.

    Also a J160 from a 3S** IS300 lexus 6 speed will bolt straight upto a T series block.

    pics and specs of these two to come.

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    Hey cheers for ANY info there Hurricane

    Already new the 6spd info but am doing other net stuff and was going to throw that on here but GO FOR IT !!

    I'm hoping that this will be a one stop shop for all info that goes with the 2-T and 3-T series

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    Yep - Chuck up the info Dan!

    This is this is the swap I want to do one day...

    J160 Mmmmmmmmmmmm

    cheers,
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    Arrow Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    How to get a 2-T in a TA22 going 13.9 sec 1/4 mile

    40 thou off the head, heavy duty springs brdracing.comTighe cam 402 grind http://www.tighecams.com.au/, Lynx side draft manifold http://www.lynxcorp.com.au/main.php?idx=home and twin 40 carbies.

    Easy as !

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    Default Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by toyboyracer View Post
    A lot of Qs are always being asked about this engine series and I hope this is the place to clear up doubts and mis-conceptions!

    Into 71 - 77 Celicas here and any info I provide really pertains to these models

    I will try and be as concise as I can but feel free to correct me when wrong

    I've a lot of info that I'll cut n paste of the next few weeks/months or so and edit where necessary

    71 - 73 : ET was available

    71 - 75 : LT, ST, GT, GTV

    ET Celica : 1.4 litre engine T series - No number before the T

    LT Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TB (Dealer option twin down draught)

    ST Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TB twin down draught (Dealer option DOHC)

    GT Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TG DOHC twin side draught 40mm Mikuni Solexs

    GTV Celica : 1.6 litre engine 2-TG DOHC twin side draught 40mm Mikuni Solexs

    Full list of JDM and USDM spec models to follow.
    The ET was available into 74 and 75.

    The TA27 only came in two models, the ST and the GT (there was no ET, LT or GTV on this model - same for the RA25).

    The GTV was available from 1973. I don't think it was around in 71-72, but someone may confirm this.

    The LT came, standard from the factory, with the 2T engine.

    Toyota had their "Choice" system, which meant a purchaser could choose the colour, interior, exterior, engine and drive-line to suit them. So, technically a buyer could purchase an ET model and request the 2T-G engine. Why someone would do that is beyond me, but the option was there.

    If a purchaser took the default models, then your list is correct, except the LT came with the 2T... the ST came with the 2T-B.

    The GTV was introduced for the weekend racers. It had a stiffer suspension than the GT, and was slightly lowered. It used the GT drive-line, but had no luxury items. However, due to the stronger suspension, the GTV weighed a few kg more than the GT. In any event, the majority of racing Celicas of that era were GT models that were stripped of the luxury items, which made them lighter than the GTV.

    At the time the GT Celica was an "option down" model, and the other models were an "option up". This means that if you bought the GT Celica, it came with all options, and you had to specify which options you did not want... such as air con, power windows, etc. On the lower models, for example an LT Celica, you would option up, where you could select things to add, such as air con, 2T-G driveline, SW Sport Custom interior, etc.

    Having said that, the only add-on GT mod that I can think of is the oil temp gauge. This gauge was stock on the GTV, but there was a spot on the GT where it could go, if one decided to get it as an option.

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    Default Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    Quote Originally Posted by toyboyracer View Post
    How to get a 2-T in a TA22 going 13.9 sec 1/4 mile

    40 thou off the head, heavy duty springs brdracing.comTighe cam 402 grind http://www.tighecams.com.au/, Lynx side draft manifold http://www.lynxcorp.com.au/main.php?idx=home and twin 40 carbies.

    Easy as !
    210HP from a naturally aspirated 2T with bugger all mods...

    River why did you bother to turbocharge an 18rg again??? Flaming old buckets of crap - can't believe you still persist with em...

    Cheers,
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    Thumbs up Re: Celica 2T / 2-TG / 2-TGEU / and 3T series engine specs *sticky*

    + rep for River correcting me (but ) I was spouting figures off the top of my head & didn't go back and correct myself - lol

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