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    Default gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    hey. okay since there is no gtfours to compare against, i test drove a celica gt4 today st185 model, had a rebuilt engine only done ~1000km on it, was very sluggish, slightly loud towards the front (boost leak?) the pressure gauge stock, indicated positive pressure but only 3/4 on the dial, and the engine really took its time to get past 4000rpm?

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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    a rebuilt motor its spose to be run in. and run in through a cycle of driving conditions and speed.

    sluggish and loud at the front could be an exhaust leak..

    but it struggling past 4000rpm can also be an induction/boost leak. and with the AFM and air leaks these cars run like shit..

    so yeh id look at that as an option

    is this guy selling it almost straight after the rebuild?? something sounds a bit off..
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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    yeah only done ~1000km since the rebuild, i thought u had to run it inn too e.g. 200km at xx revs.. but yeah it struggles to get to 4000rpm..dam adelaide and its lack of 3sgte people =( exact quote 'alot of people think these cars are quicker than what it is' but my mates st185 NA with the 5sfe went wayyy harder than this thing..its from an import yard. just jap..

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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    There are plenty of 3S-GTE's around... there are 4-5 in our club alone (Classic Celica Club of SA).

    A stock 185 today has around 110kw/atw.
    A decent 5S-FE has around 70kw/atw.
    My GT4 has around 180kw/atw.

    Just Jap have been trying to sell that GT4 for a very long time now.
    I had a look at it back in July last year. Looked like a POS.

    Sounds like this one is just running crap, and you need to do more research before thinking they are all slow.

    Look on eBay for GT4's... there are plenty on there VERY cheap at the moment.

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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    Excellent, thanks mate =) yeah i didnt think theyd all be slow, but this guy told me they were my expression :\ goignt to hunt down a black one tomorrow and drive that and see =) any chance anybody can lend a hand for comparison? id pay petrol??

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    Hmm, you can't have a drive of mine, but I'll take you for a ride.
    I'm in the Marion area.

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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    yeah thats what i meant =) would be greatly appreciated im in klemzig but can drive to you if that makes it any easier? pm me ur mobile number and well orgainse something.. thanks again -=)

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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    haha 180 at all 4s.. that will change ur mind bout gt4s!!! ull be buying one soon
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    Default Re: gtfour celica 3sgte hesitant past 4k???

    bought a nice, tidy black one today; 200k on chassis 15k on engine, tidy as =)

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