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    I am looking for options for a water-cooled oil cooler for a 4age (blacktop). It's in a mk1 mr2, so not much airflow, and I have heaps of surplus water cooling capacity.
    I don't want to use the stock mr2 oil-water cooler, so I'm looking for alternatives.
    It's not a race car, so the cooler doesn't need a lot of capacity.

    Can the Camry cooler (under the oil filter) be fitted to a 4age ?
    Does anyone have measurements of one ? or pictures ?
    Is it any use ?

    Any other suggestions ? I read good things about laminova coolers, but they're way expensive.
    Last edited by AdrianS; 21-04-2010 at 10:08 AM.

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    Don't some model chasers run these?>
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    Have a look at a WRX oil cooler.
    I recently fitted one to my racing car. You may need to weld on a new section of thread where it screws into the block like I did though.



    You also need to make some small modifications to the water system but it's not that hard to do.
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    ive heard good things about the subaru ones & was going to use one on my track car but have since upgraded the whole oil & water system instead
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    I haven't run it yet, more than a run on the stand in the garage but it seemed to work quite well there. My car only runs for ten - fifteen minutes flat-out anyway so I can stand a higher oil temp for a short time even if it doesn't work as well as the Setrab oil cooler I used to use.
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    I wonder how the WRX coolers compare to the GT4 coolers.

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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    the gen2 3sges had them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWP View Post
    I wonder how the WRX coolers compare to the GT4 coolers.
    They're about twice the size as the Toyota ones, so they should work a fair bit better.
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    Toyota engines with oil->water coolers :
    mk1 mr2 (aw11) : 4age
    Bypass type - oil is tapped from the oil filter, flows through cooler, drains to sump.
    Oil flow through cooler is controlled by a spring/piston pressure valve. I assume the pressure at the cooler bypass must be lower than the oil pump relief spring, and the cooler and oil lines are low pressure.

    Camry ('94 5SFE ?)
    Full-low sandwich type, with pressure bypass.
    http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...k-oilcoole.pdf

    Camry dimensions (from the web)
    filter flange ID 2-1/2", filter flange OD 2-3/4", suits oil filter with a 3/4 in. -16 thread and 2-5/8 in. diameter O-ring.


    Celica (1zz) - some markets
    Full-low sandwich type.
    TRD cooler :


    Tacoma (US) - towing pack - what is this called in Aus, if it came here ?



    Non-Toyota :

    VW Golf (r32)


    WRX 02-07


    Jeep patriot (US)



    I'll measure the 4a filter housing tonight; if anyone has links to what filter sizes fit what toyota engines, post them up.
    Ideally I would like a bolt-on solution; the water plumbing should not be a problem.

    edit
    4age filter o-ring appears to be 2 1/2"
    celica is 2 1/2" up to '93, then 2 5/8".
    Last edited by AdrianS; 21-04-2010 at 11:24 PM. Reason: more data

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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    That Golf one looks pretty good.
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    What's wrong with the aw11 standard cooler if it isn't a race car
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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by X kyle X View Post
    What's wrong with the aw11 standard cooler if it isn't a race car
    First, the plumbing has to be redone anyway for the 20v, as the water fittings are both at the rear of the engine.

    Second, I'd need to mod the 20v sump for the oil return line (minor work, I know).

    Third, I don't like the bypass type oil cooler, as the bypass valve is now controlling the oil pressure. It must open at lower pressure than the oil pump to work at all, but I don't know what pressure. If I could see some figures of aw11 oil pressure vs blacktop, I'd be happier.

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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    I got one from a Gen4 3SGTE from a Caldina if you want it.

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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    my diahatsu feroza has a sandwhich style oil/water cooler. wouldnt a barrel type cooler like the stock aw11 one have more surface area inside making it a better cooler?

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    Default Re: oil -> water cooler

    adrianS.. that second picture you posted is a HILUX, with a turbo diesel motor, brand new model...

    and btw, its a heat exchanger.. its not for cooling performance its for keeping the temperatures around the same temp....

    if you want cooling performance, purchase independant coolers..

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