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    Default G series diff flange on F series diff?

    I think i've seen this covered before, but i did a search and couldn't find it.

    Anyone got any ideas which G series diff flanges fit an F series diff? Just planning to upgrade my tailshaft and wouldnt mind getting some bigger pinions on the tailshaft ends.

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    I had my F series diff modified to fit a G series tailshaft. The flange was welded along the circumference to increase its diameter and new holes were drilled. Seemed like the easiest option at the time.

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    Auto MZ12's have a G series diff flange, with an F series diff...

    Cross referencing the MZ12 part number came up with a fair few results (on common cars!) if I recall when I did it a while back!

    You might be able to simply use one of them!

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    haha norbie that's an interesting method to get the bigger tail shaft happening - has it created any driveline vibration or balance issues?

    Wilbo, any idea what that part number is, or what cars they may be? I'd love to get my hands on something to try, short of going for norbie's idea...

    i got quoted on a hilux diff flange brand new from toyota for 125... but again just worried about the spline issues (the part needs to be brought in so i don't really want to get them to bring the part in only to find out it doesnt fit!)

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    just grab the removable flange off an MX83 cressida tailshaft. its what holds the centre bearing in place then just a quick spinup in a lathe to move the dust seal back and bolt it back together.

    if i remembered the exact measurement to machine id tell you but unfortunately i forgot.

    took like 5mins tops so it wont be too expensive.

    i have to do whatthes later this week so if you havn't sorted it by then ill let you know what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antag
    haha norbie that's an interesting method to get the bigger tail shaft happening - has it created any driveline vibration or balance issues?
    Nah nothing of the sort. The flange has a small diameter and low mass so it would have to be way out of round before it caused any noticeable issues, and this was turned down on a lathe so it's perfectly round.

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    That is a pretty interesting idea, now that i think about it - i've got the welder, but no lathe to turn it on though.

    Any idea of g series supra diffs (i.e. jza80's) fitting into ma61's?
    I know that's going a big step further from the original question, but i guess everything is on the cards.

    Am going to ring around some wreckers to see if they've got mz12 diffs though i don't like my chances. Hopefully be able to confirm something?!

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by antag
    That is a pretty interesting idea, now that i think about it - i've got the welder, but no lathe to turn it on though.

    Any idea of g series supra diffs (i.e. jza80's) fitting into ma61's?
    I know that's going a big step further from the original question, but i guess everything is on the cards.
    Hard / a lot of work...and I thought jza80's had A or B series (not G...), but I'm not too up on that...

    Quote Originally Posted by antag
    Am going to ring around some wreckers to see if they've got mz12 diffs though i don't like my chances. Hopefully be able to confirm something?!
    Yeah your chances will be close to non-existent, in fact I wouldn't bother

    What I suggested was looking up the MZ12 part on the EPC and cross referencing it, from memory the same part was used on lots of common things, i.e. MX83, MA70 etc? I don't have the EPC at work so can't check atm

    Another option is that is maybe possible to get a conversion uni that lets you use the F series flange...?

    Cheers
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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    Sorry, i think you're right about the supra diff - my bad on the codes..

    just called my old dealership and got a new bloke who wouldn't give me the part code after looking it up for me.. what a waste of time..

    they quoted $153 retail, in stock in australia - now it's a matter of double checking against anyone who's got one to see if they're interchangeable/ right bolt spacing..

    Anyone want to lend me their MZ12 diff flange for about an hour?

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Real Roadrunner
    just grab the removable flange off an MX83 cressida tailshaft.
    fits and probly cost you $20 + $15 machining instead of $153
    Quote Originally Posted by WHITCHY
    Prefer someone around the Sydney area but will travel a few hours for a good box!

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    Hang on,

    Linden you're saying the removable flange off an mx83 tailshaft fits onto the f series diff pinion?

    Sorry i must've misread it when i read it before...
    Let me know how you go with whatthe?'s one this week and if i'm not sorted by then, i think i'll be taking you up on that offer

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    spline is the same and uses the correct pcd and 10mm bolt holes as G series, thats what i had to get in the rolla as it had an F series centre but the guys that did the shaft couldnt get the correct yoke to suit the F diff and still run big unis.

    the one you need is the one that holds the centre bearing together.

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHITCHY
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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    I've got a 4wd Hilux tailshaft centre bearing flange as a diff flange on my F series. It was the drilled to suit the uni's I am using

    These should be at more wreckers than the soarer
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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?

    EPC says...

    41204-35050

    Diff flange to suit:

    >MZ12 ATM (1985)
    >xDN16x Hilux (9708-)
    >LN107, 111 13#, RN106,110,13# etc Hilux/r4unner (8808-)
    >Liteace YM4# (8601-8808)
    >Hiace YH56,66,LH56,66 MTM (8608-8708)
    >others

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    Default Re: G series diff flange on F series diff?



    Managed to score this shaft for free from work, not sure if it will fit.. But for the price (free) it's worth a try.

    It's the shaft from an ln106 hilux, plan on pulling this flange out and testing it...

    There were a couple of diffs around too, but i thought off the top of my head this one looks most similar to what i need...

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