braided brake lines

[NeDiC]

Hey guys,

Just a quick question, i was wondering if you are legally allowed to run braided lines under the car for brakes or do they have to be steel. I've already had 3/8 fuel lines made out of bundy but if i was legally allowed to have braided it would make mounting the line alot easier for me.

I know alot will say wat a waste of money but for my personal ease of installing money isnt really the issue

cheers

[MR22ZZ]

should be able to find the info you need here... http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/

[NeDiC]

cheers mate

[maurice c]

I got braided hoses made for the front of my 40 that were a lot cheaper then buying the 4 hoses new. $120 dollars I think.

[merc-blue]

you could run every line for everyting in braided, but it would be REALLY expensive, as you cant just use earls fittings and braided line you have to get the crimp on ADR ones made for you
also you should regularly inspect braided lines,
IMO run steel bundy tube it cant be THAT much harder and is safer and easyer to comply with road laws

[oldcorollas]

and while braided lines might have less expansion than a non-braided hose (but in reality, most are just the same due to their construction), they will definitely have more expansion than a steel tube....

having long lengths of flexible hose is a great way to kill pedal feel

but if it makes you happy....

edit: those Braidedhoses.com.au lines are just teflon lines with a pretty braid on top...
the strength comes fromt he teflon. the braiding is JUST THERE TO LOOK PRETTY!
(and stop abrasion.. which is the real reason to have a metal braid on top of a rubber line anyway....)

[Joshstix]

Take the extra money that the braided lines would cost over proper bundy tube and use it to pay someone else to mount the proper tubes.

[abently]

and while braided lines might have less expansion than a non-braided hose (but in reality, most are just the same due to their construction)

Is there anyway to tell ? Either by their cost from the Dealer or just general make of the vehicle ? (Ahem, 03 low-spec Corolla)

The difference in expansion is like you've noted, very little, but I wonder if anyone has tested the difference around a track where the lines may become heat-soaked ?

[IN 05 NT]

if you just fit braied lines to one axle, you wont notice it as much, but fit them all round and you will have a firmer brake pedal,
it is noticeable.

but also comes down to cond of old brake lines, we recently fitted braided lines to a VZ commy with 170ks on it, and the owner was stoaked with the new pedal feel,
(off the shelf lines that he supplied to us, no idea what brand they were)

[xlr8_07]

in New Zealand you are able to , hoever they must not cross under any chassis rail under the passanger compartment and they must be certified.

[newbien]

another thought that has crossed my mind...is there much point to running a braided clutch line?

the setup is:

RWD 4age, 4 Puck heavy duty clutch, light weight flywheel, T50

cheers

[Smokey228]

I ran a braided clutch line as it was easier and cheaper than having bundy tube made and fitted to suit...

Cheers,
Jase

[MWP]

You may feel a difference with braided clutch lines, but would it make a difference to how you change gears?
I very much doubt it.

[oldcorollas]

if you just fit braied lines to one axle, you wont notice it as much, but fit them all round and you will have a firmer brake pedal,
it is noticeable.

but also comes down to cond of old brake lines, we recently fitted braided lines to a VZ commy with 170ks on it, and the owner was stoaked with the new pedal feel,
(off the shelf lines that he supplied to us, no idea what brand they were)

so.. you changed an internal rubbe rline with an internal teflon line and the owner was stoked with the pedal feel

as i said months ago, the braid is there to be pretty and resist wear, not to give any strength.

if you want a firmer pedal, got lines with stronger internals... is about as simple as that

[TERRA Operative]

How can I tell which brands/types are stronger? I'll be looking at this sort of thing soon for AE101 Levin (superstrrut), I'm happy to pay for good stuff.