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    Default Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Just thought i'd start a thread containing a list of all the weird bits that are interchangable between engines/cars...

    example:

    TOI #1: the bellhousing bolt pattern of a 1G and T series engine are the same, so you can use a 1G bellhousing to mate a W58 to your 3T

    TOI #2: 1nzfe 31mm shimless buckets fit the 2jzg(t)e

    TOI #3: JZ engine starter motors are interchangable with M engines (and work better)

    TOI #4: 7MGTE cam angle sensor fits the 2JZGE (with v.minor modification)

    etc etc

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    From Ed himself ;

    MS65 hubs fit the MA61 struts to give 5 stud conversion for the fronts

    MS123 stubs fit the MA61 trailing arms to give 5 stud conversion

    RA60/65 Fuse box cover is the same as MA61

    Don't thos buckets frit a 7M-G(T)E as well (or a variant of them ?)


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    1ZZFE (MR2 Spider) Shimless buckets fit the 3SGTE (Confirmed)
    4AG 16V Camshafts (Edit: Do NOT!) fit in the 3SGTE (Disproved!)
    Last edited by Toobs; 16-12-2005 at 05:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    90% sure of this statment will have full confirmation soon.

    the hinges from the liftback of an RA28 are the same (or very similar to)
    RA40, AE86

    This leads to the possibility of other RA's having them, and other Corollas having them.
    A trip to the wreckers will confirm this and what other models are similar.
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    MS65 hubs will go onto XT130 RT132 RA40 RA28 RA23 stub axles

    MS65 hubs will also go onto MX10/13 MX22/23 Mk II corona

    7M-GE alternator will bolt onot 1G-GE without the need to change pulley, if done vise versa pulley must be swapped.

    LN106 (1989-1993) Hilux 4 piston calipers will bolt onto the same caliper mount as the sumitomo twin piston calipers found on the RT132 and MX13/23 Mk II corona (90mm bolt spacing)

    EDIT: ive also read but cant confirm that the Y series bellhousing is the same/similar to the S series bellh
    - ma61 + 2jz-gte + v160 + 3.5 torsen

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Rob,
    If that is the case with 7M-GE --> 1G-GE
    Is the same true for 7M-GTE --> 1G-GTE?
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    i can only 100% confrim the GE's but i would say there is a very high chance it applies to the GTE's as well.
    - ma61 + 2jz-gte + v160 + 3.5 torsen

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    I will confirm this most problem solving piece of information either way.
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    Comparison of 7MGTE, 1UZFE and 5MGE alternators.
    http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/alternator/
    (note all the plugs are the same)

    Rob, I've 99.9% sure S and Y bellhousing patterns are the same, but Y has the gearbox rotated a few degrees. Wait for one of the RWD 3SGTE boys to chime in.
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Y bellhousings are almost the same as the S series. One of the bolt holes is out by a few mm, but of course this is easily taken care of. Note this is first-hand information.

    Another oddity, courtesy of Wilbo: the high-pressure power steering hose from an RA65 Celica is a direct fit for an MA61 with a JZ series engine. I wish I'd known this when I was hooking up my P/S.

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... 2T/3T bottom ends

    Late model 2T-G blocks are the same casting as 3T blocks, just stamped with an engine number (2T#### or 3T####) to correspond with the internals (1588CC or 1770CC).

    Late block is p/n 11411-28010 (possibly others also).
    Early block is p/n 11411-26012 (possibly others also).

    Date of change to the later casting would roughly correspond with the start of 3T motor production, approx 1980 I suspect. Accordingly 2T-G built after this date would use later casting.

    In my experience,
    11111-88222 head (and earlier) = 11411-26012 block;
    11111-88260 head (and later) = 11411-28010 block.

    IIRC 88260 head came in carb (2T-GU, 2T-GR) or EFI (2T-GEU) versions, from 88261 onwards 2T-G were EFI only (ie. 2T-GEU).

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    ae92 front hubs are the same as aw11 rear hubs.
    at165/early st185 brakes fit directly up to aw11 front and work a treat.
    noltec's bush for the inner tie rod end DOES NOT FIT.

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Whiteline catalogue has previously listed AE86 Corolla adjustable panhard rod for TA22. This doesn't fit. AE86 is listed as either ####10 or ####11; you need whichever one of the above isn't listed for AE86. Make sense?

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Hiace RH40 stub axles bolt up to Crown R/MS40 wishbones.
    Hiace RH40 upper and lower ball joints bolt straight into MS40 wishbones.

    "Who cares?" you ask? Good for converting drum brakes to disc brakes on these old clumpers.

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Quote Originally Posted by TooF
    ae92 front hubs are the same as aw11 rear hubs.
    at165/early st185 brakes fit directly up to aw11 front and work a treat.
    noltec's bush for the inner tie rod end DOES NOT FIT.
    Which'll mean the ST205 ones should fit with a few mods.
    Any idea whether the brake rotors have the same offset (I know the stud patterns are different)?

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