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    Mounts made it !! Ryan at Bonneville was great to deal with and cheers to Toymods and you guys for providing the info on how to find them. Now i'm still waiting for my front sump so I can't say they fit perfect but everything looks in order . Question for ya .. Does anyone have a pic of the mounts installed ?? I was wondering if you guys all used the front mounting points in the block for clearance or did you use the original (JZA70) location. It seems they fit over the line perfect in the rear location (wrong pan ) but even with my front sump they may have an issue with clearing the line. I can't see how the rad and fans will clear the pulleys if someone used the rear mounting holes . Maybe a pic or a word of from somene with experiance with these mounts , a 1j and a ma61 thanks


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    Front mount points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrUZida

    O.K. Thanks !! having the only 1j in a thousand miles makes for a fun swap

    found this y pipe/downpipe from ZW motorsports for 250.00 I was wondering what difference you guys noticed by installing the y pipe ? Seem i'll never get to run the stock shit but that can't be a bad thing according to what I read . Any comments on it ? The exhaust is from RaptorRacing 3" with 14815 magnaflow muffler . Just wanted a quality system that might last as long as the car but i'm interested in the benefits of the y pipe over the stock and how much the turbos will be affected ? Seems a huge benefit over stock but I guess I shall never know



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    $300 a pair?? F*ck me dead. I guess you can charge what you like when you have no competition.

    Looks like I'll have to buy a set though. I really cannot be bothered making them myself. The time to knock them up would be a pain in the arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTM
    $300 a pair?? F*ck me dead. I guess you can charge what you like when you have no competition.

    Looks like I'll have to buy a set though. I really cannot be bothered making them myself. The time to knock them up would be a pain in the arse.

    Yeah to make them would be a PITA !! Well the good news is it fit spot on but was a fun job . I do have a question about the Bonneville mounts. It looks like my crank pully will hit the sway bar if not it's very very close . I can get pics of that but has anyone else had this issue ? Cheers!!

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    That exhaust is awesome. Definitely the best option if you are staying with the stock twins

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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    thanks dude... this has been a real help in planning my 2jz conversion.

    I was planning on sourcing a 1jz but my mad cap brother has got a hold of a 2j for me.
    I have a much better idea of what I'm up against after reading this.

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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    Just re-weighed my MA61 after dropping the 2J into it.
    Weight with 5M-GE & full tank of fuel = 1320kg
    Weight with 2JZ-GTE & allowance for full tank of fuel = 1350kg

    Note that all the 'ancilliaries' have also added weight. The additional weight of the new exhaust, new tailshaft, new induction piping and intercooler added about 20kg. Hence a stock 2JZ-GTE is only about 10kg or so heavier than the old 5M. Not bad for 3x the power!

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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    Did any of you guys have problems with the speed cut as the 2JZ i got came with a speed sense wire, which didnt get connected as the ma61 dosent have newhere to connect it to

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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celcius1
    Did any of you guys have problems with the speed cut as the 2JZ i got came with a speed sense wire, which didnt get connected as the ma61 dosent have newhere to connect it to
    That isn't true.

    The MA61 dash cluster has an output that should go to the engine ECU speed sensor pin (SPD1)

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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    Also the only sympton with that disconnected (assuming you are manual) will be that the CEL (if you have one wired) will light up at speeds over 100kph.


    And Wilbo, the stock 5ME ECU does not have an SPD input, but the Cruise ECU (which is located in the passengers A pillar) does.
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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    speeds over 100kph? but it doesn't know how fast it's going..?? i thought it was time based, after two seconds or like a minute of no input it throws a CEL.

    And yes, the cruise ecu plug is the best place to tap for the speed sensor signal... bugger pulling the dash out

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViPeR_NiPPleX
    speeds over 100kph? but it doesn't know how fast it's going..?? i thought it was time based, after two seconds or like a minute of no input it throws a CEL.
    No doubt its time, rpm and load based, but Nathans 1GGTE ecu never through the code under 100kph. Go above 100kph for a short time and the CEL would light up.
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    Default Re: 1JZ / 2JZ into MA61 / MZ10 Guide.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrUZida
    And Wilbo, the stock 5ME ECU does not have an SPD input, but the Cruise ECU (which is located in the passengers A pillar) does.
    Yah well aware of all that

    let me add an extra work of detail to clear up what I meant

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666
    The MA61 dash cluster has an output that should go to the NEW engine ECU speed sensor pin (SPD1)

    Also I didn't wire the SPD pin in the JZA61... it never threw a code related to it...

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