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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngy
    Could you please post up the radius measurement from the centre of the axle to the outside of the caliper?
    From the centre of the axle to the most extreme point on the caliper is 165mm approximately. So allow 170mm to be sure.

    If you're thinking 15" wheels you might be okay but 16" would be fine. As you can see my 17" are heaps big enough.

    A quick calculation 2 x 170mm = 340mm = 13.5inches.

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    Thanks Peter and Pure_In_Sanity!

    Much appreciated!

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    im running an explorer 15" steelie, and it clears fine....
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    I hate to make you feel bad Infotech, but that MA70 master cyclinder is listed as the same size as the RN85R, so your buy seems like a waste of money. I checked this in the Australian Truck and Auto Parts catalogue. It's too big for me to attach. I'll just be running my standard MC and Booster with the R32 front upgrade and MA70 rear conversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1JZ~lux
    I hate to make you feel bad Infotech, but that MA70 master cyclinder is listed as the same size as the RN85R, so your buy seems like a waste of money. I checked this in the Australian Truck and Auto Parts catalogue. It's too big for me to attach. I'll just be running my standard MC and Booster with the R32 front upgrade and MA70 rear conversion.
    Yeah, I saw your comment in the other thread. No biggie.

    I had already decided not to use it after the discussion about how the brake lines were set up on the RN85R.

    When I'm finished I'll gather all the leftovers and put them up for sale.

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    you cannot use a drum brake master cylinder with disc brakes...
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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    you cannot use a drum brake master cylinder with disc brakes...
    Not entirely true. If you use an appropriate bias control device, you can... but that just adds more complexity to the system, and one more part to fail, so its not really a nice option from an engineering perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    you cannot use a drum brake master cylinder with disc brakes...
    Excellent. So I will / I won't / I will. Thanks Robbo.

    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    Not entirely true. If you use an appropriate bias control device,
    I thought the RN85R had a bias control device at the rear. Or do you mean between front and rear?

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    I mean a bias device, not a load proportioning valve which any ute worth its salt will have. Different items doing different jobs.

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    Quote Originally Posted by infotechplus
    Excellent. So I will / I won't / I will. Thanks Robbo.



    I thought the RN85R had a bias control device at the rear. Or do you mean between front and rear?

    Cheers,

    Peter

    i cant speak for an RN85, but as i mentioned way back in this thread the yn57 is balanced REALLY weirdly - hence i said id give you photos of my re-designed brake lines...quite frankly i cant see why the rn85 would be at all different in the braking setup -
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    and the reason i said use the booster as well is so it matches well with the MC, its a hard call to say that a hilux booster will work well in combination with a supra MC, I know my ma61 booster is up to shit with the ma70 master...needs a fuckin lot of adjustment, which i dont know that i have...


    Plus, ive already said how good and smooth the brakeds were with the supra booster/ mc and the discs - why do anything different thats unknown territory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    i cant speak for an RN85, but as i mentioned way back in this thread the yn57 is balanced REALLY weirdly - hence i said id give you photos of my re-designed brake lines...quite frankly i cant see why the rn85 would be at all different in the braking setup -
    Yes, that would be appreciated Robbo. I have been eagerly anticiopating them. How do you want to send them to me? My email?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infotechplus
    Yes, that would be appreciated Robbo. I have been eagerly anticiopating them. How do you want to send them to me? My email?

    Cheers,

    Peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    add me to msn and ill send through there - [email protected]

    Blake,

    I added you to MSN some time ago. I'll leave it running and see you later.

    I'm "[email protected]".

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    Default Re: How to: Supra MA70 rear discs to Hilux

    It's been one of those weekends were I seemed to be running around a lot doing stuff but nothing seems to have really got done.

    I had to put all the handbrake internals back into the rear end conversion. I remember pulling the rear discs and calipers at Pick'n'Payless took only a short time but putting the buGGers back on was a nightmare of skinned knuckles and hands with cramps taking hold.

    The clips/spring/discs that hold the mechanism to the backing plate gave me a heap of trouble. I did eventually get them on but it took about 3 hours for both sides. The springs kept jumping off, and then the adjuster mechanbism fell out so I had to start all over. After I finished I had to take everything off again as my adjustment was too tight and the wheels were locking up on a the handbrake shoes.

    All I need to do now is adjust the handbrake cable tension as the handbrake lever is a l o n g draw from the dash. That should be easy enough though.

    I did manage to clean up the MA70 booster and the master cylinder. This week I'll get a new gasket from Toyota and bolt it up. I believe installation requires the firewall to be enlarged a little so I'll use my Dremel kit for that.





    I'm waiting for the 3 way union to connect up the new lines for the brakes. I'll use some stainless to make everything connect up as I have some spare from the rears. Thanks to Blake (Robbos_Toyota) for all the info on how to do this. I'll write it up and take some photos as I go so stay tuned.

    Cheers,

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