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    Default Re: Toyota Manual Gearboxes and their Ratios (W, R, V, K, T, P)

    either the W40 ratios are wrong, or the W50 ratios are wrong, cuz i know for a fact you can't put a W40 input shaft into a W50. the W40 has one more tooth than the W50.
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    good thread anyone able to put up ratios for the j160 6sp like in an is200, bolts up to a 1ggte etc
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    Default Re: Toyota Manual Gearboxes and their Ratios (W, R, V, K, T, P)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1jzracing
    good thread anyone able to put up ratios for the j160 6sp like in an is200, bolts up to a 1ggte etc
    SXE10 6 sp 3.874 2.175 1.484 1.223 1.000 0.869

    other potential ratios since the J160 is actually an Aisan Industries AZ6....


    S15 6 spd 3.626 2.200 1.541 1.213 1.000 0.767
    RX8 6 spd
    Miata 6-spd 3.760 2.269 1.645 1.257 1.000 0.843

    I know the RX8 ratios are out there... just couldn't find them when I did my search before


    Here are all the gears available from an OEM AZ6...

    S15 -- 6 spd -- 3.626 2.200 1.541 1.213 1.000 0.767
    RX8 -- 6 spd -- 3.760 2.269 1.645 1.187 1.000 0.843
    Miata 6-spd -- 3.760 2.269 1.645 1.257 1.000 0.843
    SXE10 6 sp (J160) 3.874 2.175 1.484 1.223 1.000 0.869
    TRD(33030-SE100) 3.106 2.175 1.585 1.223 1.000 0.869

    ALLEGEDELY HKS also makes gears for the AZ6... or it appears they do..... http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/...ist_index.html
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    C50
    1st: 3.545
    2nd: 1.904
    3rd: 1.310
    4th: .969
    5th: .815
    final drive: 3.722

    4AGE
    1st: 3.166
    2nd: 1.904
    3rd: 1.310
    4th: 0.969
    5th: 0.815
    Final: 4.058

    C56
    1st: 3.166
    2nd: 1.904
    3rd: 1.392
    4th: 1.031
    5th: .815
    final drive: 4.312

    edit : referenced from toymods..
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    Umm K boxes, all corollas did not have the same ratios. There was actually quite a few different versions. But I haven;t come across a defnitive guide to date. Some version had the same ratio as the t40

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    Default Re: Toyota Manual Gearboxes and their Ratios (W, R, V, K, T, P)

    C160 (6 speed)
    1st: 3.166
    2nd: 2.050
    3rd: 1.481
    4th: 1.166
    5th: .916
    6th: 0.725
    final drive: 4.529

    E58
    1st - 3.214
    2nd - 2.045
    3rd - 1.333
    4th - 0.972
    5th - 0.820
    Final-3.944

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    Hi my name is David. I'm using the 3SGTE ST 185 Engine.

    I just bought the W58 gearbox. I realised that the W58 bellhousing won't match to the engine.

    Can anybody please inform me 1S, 2S, 4S come from what cars pleasee..

    Your help would be really appreciated. Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    copied directly from answers.com
    incase their website ever disappears, the info isnt lost.
    ive posted this link a few times in the last couple weeks



    Toyota W transmission
    Toyota Motor Corporation's W family is a family of RWD/4WD transmissions built by Aisin. Physically, these transmissions have much in common (like the bell housing-to-body bolt pattern) with other Aisin-built transmissions, like the Jeep AX-5 and the Toyota G-series. The W55, W56, W57, W58, and W59 are externally and internally very similar aside from the gear ratios.


    W40
    4-speed transmission offered in base model vehicles.

    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.287:1
    Second Gear: 2.043:1
    Third Gear: 1.394:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications:

    1978-1981 Toyota Celica

    W45
    Little information is available for the W45 but service documentation from around 1980 lists it as being the 4-speed variant of the W55. It was used in Toyota RWD cars from around the same year.

    The W45 was comprised of all aluminum alloy.

    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.566:1
    Second Gear: 2.056:1
    Third Gear: 1.384:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications: ~1980 RWD Toyota Cars


    W50
    Often called the "steel-case" transmission for its steel shell, in contrast to the later W-series transmissions' aluminum case.

    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.287:1
    Second Gear: 2.043:1
    Third Gear: 1.394:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.853:1
    Reverse: -4.039:1

    W51
    Very little information is available about this transmission but it appears to be a model used between the W50 and the W55.

    Composition is steel.

    Ratios: Unknown

    Applications: Later models of Toyota RWD cars with R and T engines.


    W52
    Very little information is available about this transmission but it appears to be a model used between the W51 and the W55.

    Composition is steel.

    Ratios: Unknown

    Applications: Unknown


    W55
    This was the first of the aluminum-shelled W-series transmissions.

    The W55 appears to be a base reference point for gear ratios that Toyota used to fine tune later models of the W-series.


    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.566:1
    Second Gear: 2.056:1
    Third Gear: 1.384:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications:

    1982-1983 Toyota Carina
    1982-1985 Toyota Celica
    1983 Toyota Corona
    1986 Toyota Soarer
    1986 Toyota Crown
    1983 Toyota Chaser
    1984-1988 Toyota Pickup 2WD with 22RE(EFI) engine
    2002-2005 Lexus IS300 (US Market only)

    W56
    A common truck transmission that came in 2-wheel and 4-wheel drive varieties.

    Its ratios differ in comparison to the base W55 in the 1st and 2nd gears only; this is to allow a slightly heavier vehicle (truck) to get up to speed slightly quicker than if geared like a car.

    This was most likely accomplished by taking the W55 base gears and changing the 1st and 2nd gear sets, as the rest of the transmission remains unchanged.


    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.954:1
    Second Gear: 2.141:1
    Third Gear: 1.384:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    Applications:

    Toyota Hilux
    Toyota 4Runner

    W57
    It differs from the W58 only in its fifth-gear ratio.

    The W57 is sometimes designated as a "Close-ratio transmission", however in its stock form it does not meet all the criteria for a Close-ratio box.

    The ratio shift was accomplished by taking the W55 base ratios and changing the input shaft to intermediate shaft ratio by 7.9%, thus shifting 1,2,3 ratios higher by that amount (4th is direct 1:1).

    Unlike in the W58 the 5th/overdrive gear set was changed to create a smaller rpm drop between 4th & 5th gears so as to remain close to the overdrive ratio seen in the other boxes.

    The rest of the transmission remains unchanged.


    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.285:1
    Second Gear: 1.894:1
    Third Gear: 1.275:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.861:1
    Reverse: -3.768:1
    Applications:

    1983-1986 Toyota Supra MK 2 in certain non-US markets.
    1986 Toyota Crown
    1986 Toyota Cressida

    W58
    This transmission is very popular as a replacement of other vehicles' weak stock transmissions. It came in two varieties: the original found in the 1982-1989 non-turbo Supras, Celicas and Cressidas of the early 1980's; and the version found in Mk3, Mk 4 Supras and Lexus SC 300s. The latter version has some differences from the earlier version.

    Toyota lists a change from an alloy sandwich plate to a steel sandwich plate around 1989. The steel sandwich plate has some minor internal differences, and it is believed to be slightly stronger (some wider bearings, some wider gears, slightly different gear selection mechanism etc). In theory the all alloy version of the W58 should be the exact same strength as any other all alloy W-Series transmission. The steel plate version is considered much harder to find and worth approximately three to five times as much as an all alloy version.

    The ratios and bolt patterns remain the same regardless of the sandwich plate used.

    The W58 & W57 share the highest gearing and closest ratios (1st,2nd,3rd distance to 4th/Direct) of any of the stock W-Series transmissions.

    The ratio shift was accomplished by taking the W55 base ratios and changing the input shaft to intermediate shaft ratio by 7.9%, thus shifting 1,2,3 ratios higher by that amount (4th is direct 1:1), this also shifted 5th/overdrive gear higher by the same amount creating a wider/taller overdrive ratio.

    The W58 is sometimes designated as a "Close-ratio transmission", however in its stock form it does not meet all the criteria for a Close-ratio box.

    Many people have the opinion that the W58 has the best gear ratios of all the W-Series for "road car" use, this seems to be supported by the favor that Toyota has shown to the W58 by including it in so many models and even building a stronger version for higher powered applications.




    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.285:1
    Second Gear: 1.894:1
    Third Gear: 1.275:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.783:1
    Reverse: -3.768:1
    Applications:

    1982-1986 Toyota MK 2 Celica Supra
    1986-1992 Toyota MK 3 non-turbo Supra
    1993-1998 Toyota MK 4 non-turbo Supra
    1986 Toyota Cressida
    1986 Toyota Soarer
    1982-1985 Toyota Celica
    1982-1992 Lotus Excel

    W59
    A common truck transmission, this was the successor to the W56. Like the W56, it came in both 2-wheel and 4-wheel drive versions.

    This model appears to have a combination of ratios used in older models of the W-series.

    1st and 2nd are low ratios like in the W56 for use to get a heavy vehicle moving.
    3rd ratio is the same as in the W57/W58 for a lower rpm drop between 3rd & 4th useful in high-speed acceleration.
    4th is direct 1:1 as per design in these boxes.
    5th seems to be the base W55 overdrive ratio.

    Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.954:1
    Second Gear: 2.141:1
    Third Gear: 1.275:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    Applications:

    Toyota Tacoma

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    Default Re: Toyota Manual Gearboxes and their Ratios (W, R, V, K, T, P)

    some further updates on J160/AZ6. The Nissan code for this transmission is FS6R92A. Nismo offers a gear set for it.

    2.9071 1.9888 1.5373 1.2179 1.0000 0.8624

    http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/c...on/silvia.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldeskewltoy
    some further updates on J160/AZ6. The Nissan code for this transmission is FS6R92A. Nismo offers a gear set for it.

    2.9071 1.9888 1.5373 1.2179 1.0000 0.8624

    http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/c...on/silvia.html
    Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the website which you gave me is meant for Nismo. Do you know any associate who sells parts for gearbox W58 ?? Highly appreciated if you could help. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick View Post
    Plenty of speed calculators around, i have not used a net one for years but ill look!
    I use this one

    http://www.osella.com.au/gear-ratios.htm
    It just bolts on!
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