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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    More fuel for the fire you say?

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    just more of an excuse to see a 5m-e actually perform outside the square

    or blow it up and swap in a real motor.... you know, whatever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViPeR_NiPPleX
    just more of an excuse to see a 5m-e actually perform outside the square
    Sean did it, although regretting a lot of it And GT has an uber rebuild 5MTE that's still a WIP as far as I know? It's just so much EASIER and CHEAPER for me to turbo this thing than do anything else right now. Probably same price just more effort to 5MGE it, I'll go hunt for one so I can prepare for the worst

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    If we are to delve into that topic further, i'd suggest we start a new thread, I don't want to clutter this one with more off topic stuff

    On topic, i'm using the stock airbox with the mx73 piping to the AFM. I find the distance is slightly different to the mx73 and so the piping has to go on slightly inconvient angles. No leaks I don't think. But I have seen the mx73 stock air box used in this conversion too... not enough room

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    Im using the stock mx73 piping to the 5me airbox. It was a pain to get it to fit, I didnt think it would at first but persistance paid off.
    I'll ad it to the main post.

    Quote Originally Posted by RObErT_RaTh
    But... but..!!! There's this spot inside of me that is all soft for the 5M and I don't think it will go away unless I keep a 5M and work the hell out of it...
    Oh dear, is there any medication you can take for that ?
    /jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enchanter
    Oh dear, is there any medication you can take for that ?
    Only one cure that I'm aware of....

    On topic: Roughly how long do you think the conversion took you enchanter and how many people required? 2 or 3? I'm curious if it could be done by a newbie such as myself with the help of a couple newbie mates

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    If you are jumping in the deep end and attempting this conversion... I would definately plan out what needs to be done in stages. Even simple disassembly.

    1. Remove AFM and intake piping
    2. Remove radiator
    3. etc etc

    Tick off as you go, and that sort of thing. You don't want to be at the stage where you have to drop the gearbox and find you left the gearstick in

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    I did 95% of it by myself, it was only time saving stuff that I was helped with. If you have an engine hoist that can alter the CoG for the engine and gearbox to tilt it halfway out you wont need more than one person.

    By far I spent the most time getting the 5me out of the car cleanly. Im only guessing but from removing the bonnet and dropping coolant/gbox oil to 5me sitting on the ground would have been at about 5 hours by myself.
    Another hour swaping the flywheel and gbox etc over.
    About 3 to drop the 5mge back in including tailshaft and exhaust.
    About 2 hours to refit AFM, radiator, gearstick, gbox oil.
    Then about 4 to work out the wiring, it would only take about 1.5 hours now though.
    15 hours work sounds about right, although I didnt time myself so I could be out a few hours either way. I did the actual engine swap not including AFM etc in one day and I was totally stuffed by the end.

    I think with a few mates, the right tools and a good plan as James has mentioned you could have this done in a weekend, although Id aim for a long weekend just to be sure
    Oh and be sure you have everything you need before you start, radiator hose, gearbox oil etc etc.

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    Thanks mate, gives me a good idea of what to plan for

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    Hi Tim finaly got cleared hehe .... just want to say thanks for your help & this thread oh & some Rep ...

    Cheers Keith:

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    No probs keith

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    Hi
    I'm gearing up for my 1st engine swap. I've got a hold of a 6mge that that was attached to an auto. I'm swappign this out with my manual 5me.

    Is the 6m auto ecu compatible with the manual box (W58)? , or can I just plug in the 5me ecu?
    I had a red one but de wheels fell off..

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    Use the 6mge ecu, it should work fine. Just remember to bridge the pin that senses the auto box is in park other wise it wont start. The 5me ecu probably wont work at all. Good luck !!

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    thanks for the info mate.

    Had a look aroudn for a m/t 6m ecu .. didnt have any luck so is a bit of a relief
    I had a red one but de wheels fell off..

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    Default Re: MA61 5me to 5mge conversion guide

    hey guys, bringing up old thread cos it is relevant to the 5m-ge.
    i am looking at a 5m-ge swap to another 5m-ge replacement, however they might be different series engines i am aware.
    if my engine is a Gen1/1.5 and a MX73 Gen2 is used - does the full wiring conversion involve all the dash and ecu as well? or can it run off the old ECU and same plugs from the dash used.
    im trying to figure out if i will need the ECU/Loom completely, and if this much work is required I might as well look into a host of other engines as they will require equal time. Making it worth my time basically.

    thanks hope that all made sense >.<
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