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    Default 2zzge In an EP91

    Hey guys,

    Has anyone done this???

    Got an EP91, was tossing up throwing a black top 4age 20v in, but thought why not go 2zge??????
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    The 2ZZGE is not exactly a small unit. I think it might struggle to fit in a starlet engine bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee-Black
    Hey guys,

    Has anyone done this???

    Got an EP91, was tossing up throwing a black top 4age 20v in, but thought why not go 2zge??????
    Obvious issues with the keys plus standard ecu/use of an more expensive aftermarket ecu.

    Someone tried it into and echo and failed so it may not actually fit
    If in doubt power out

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    wouldnt it be more easier and far less of a headache to go 4EFTE?
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    Ive seen it done in an Echo, and a Starlet engine bay looks bigger. Another thing i guess is ecu, but Id be buying a front cut, so we would try and fit everything from the celica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamgatan
    wouldnt it be more easier and far less of a headache to go 4EFTE?
    Yeah definatley, but we want an NA Machine to rip all the Hondas up!
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee-Black
    Ive seen it done in an Echo, and a Starlet engine bay looks bigger. Another thing i guess is ecu, but Id be buying a front cut, so we would try and fit everything from the celica.
    Just to bring up this point, a 2ZZGE has never fit into a road legal Echo. There is a promo/show one going around in NZ I think.

    I know of someone who attempted the conversion here but because of the angle the engine requires to be mounted at, the chassis rails need to be cut for it to fit and good luck getting that through engineering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee-Black
    Yeah definatley, but we want an NA Machine to rip all the Hondas up!
    I'd suggest an AE82 or AE92 shell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee-Black
    Yeah definatley, but we want an NA Machine to rip all the Hondas up!
    *cough* BEAMS *cough*
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    actually your 2ZZGE (after googling a bit) dimensions are

    Length - 652mm
    Height - 602mm
    Width - 659mm

    theres no way i can see that fitting in a EP91 engine bay...
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    id go for the FWD 3sge BEAMS if u wanna make a lot of torque, otherwise stick with the 20v idea

    there are a couple of 3sgte EP82 starlets getting around, so no reason u couldnt fit a 3sge BEAMS in, its just gonna cost a shitload
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    Quote Originally Posted by jezza323
    its just gonna cost a shitload
    and a 2zzge would cost any less
    If in doubt power out

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    whats the 3sge beams from? SW20?
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    tsk tsk... former Altezza owner doesnt know what the BEAMS is from.... tsk tsk

    there were two BEAMS engines.

    Redtop BEAMS was in the last revisions of the MR2 SW20. Had VVTi on the Intake Cam only. I believe there was a ST204 that got it as well but i need to confirm that.

    Blacktop BEAMS was in the JDM Altezza SXE10 had VVTi on both intake and exhaust cams.
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    Default Re: 2zzge In an EP91

    lol, ohh yeah, of course I knew about the Altezza motor, but I automatically assumed that being RWD, had no way without a lot of work and $$ was going into a Starlet lol
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