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    Default 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    has anyone found a source for replacement guides.
    or a compatible replacement from another engine? (yes, checked TIO)

    apparently mine are almost dead and 'hope they hold up' spec.
    so trying to replace them for my performance build.

    any help appreciated!

    -DAvid

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    oh I have emailed Stewart Wilkins, waiting on a reply...

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    i think i remember seeing them on ebay from time to time with the chains, don't know of the quality though
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    I think you might be able to use 2T-G ones, but you have already emailed Steward Wilkins motorsport (who have 2T-G ones) so they will tell you.
    I bought a set of 2T-G ones off them earlier this year for my hybrid, cost me $500 for a complete set of chains and guides. Though it was well worth it, no more chain rattle!

    My '22 is getting a 3TGTE over christmas, and ill be pulling it apart to check all this before it goes in, so Im hoping I can use the 2T-G ones... Let us know, thanks
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    yeah, the pricetag is a bit of a killer. but I think I would get them..
    just trying to confirm that they are interchangeable items!

    anyone with knowledge would be handy right now!

    I am going to email them again, and see if they can supply pictures of the parts for a visual comparison.

    hopefully we can find out the answer for you and me both soon!!


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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    Tensioners!


    they look pretty similar, except for the rod/piston pressure bitty.

    also appear to be pretty rebuild able and good anyway
    (see thread http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12838)

    now the guides!!
    maybe they are a bit different.. by looking at the tensioner thing.


    -DAvid

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    I figure the price tag might seem like a killer, but not really when you think about it. Most 2T-Gs are around 30ish years old. The guides I replaced in my hybrid were toyota ones which made me suspect they were probably the original items from when the engine came from the factory. So when you think about it $500 bucks is pretty reasonable, as even if aftermarket ones dont last as long, they surely would have to last around 10 years at least....

    So therefore I can justify the cost to replace them
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    exactly! replace once thing.
    depends how long you intend to keep the car for.

    everything else is brand new in the engine, so can't skint on another $300.
    (already have lower tensioner/guides)

    -DAvid

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    Quote Originally Posted by setsuna
    Tensioners!


    they look pretty similar, except for the rod/piston pressure bitty.

    also appear to be pretty rebuild able and good anyway
    (see thread http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12838)

    now the guides!!
    maybe they are a bit different.. by looking at the tensioner thing.


    -DAvid

    And the dramatic difference in the throw out length
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    Quote Originally Posted by setsuna
    oh I have emailed Stewart Wilkins, waiting on a reply...
    Hey you got a reply yet on whether you can use the 2TG guides in the 3TGTE?
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    not confirmed yet.
    I compared using pics.. and decided to get them.
    sitting right in front of me

    won't know until Friday if they are interchangeable or not (when I goto engine shop)

    will post results then.

    -DAvid

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    I got over the cost of these things on paper..
    but having them in front of me now.. have to deal with the ripoff price once again.
    hehehehe

    little pieces of nothing, cost bulk $$$

    oh well~ everything will be new, and last forever!

    -DAvid

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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    has anyone tried making the things? they can't be that hard can they and the amount you would make for other people would drop the price wayyyyy down?
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    i broke my 18rgeu one and pulled the 3t-gteu off they look the same on the outside but have put them apart bit by bit
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    Default Re: 3T-GTE Timing Chain Guides

    hey jackel, you say you have 18rg ones off atm?
    maybe we could make a 3-way comparison?

    otherwise tomorrow afternoon, it'll be 2t-3t comparison at the engine builders

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