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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Yeah, and there will soon be 7Ms lying around, which probably wouldnt be much more.
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    It doesn't matter whether it will be a 5MGE, 7MGE or 2JZGE conversion, EVERYTHING will be the same (in terms of conversion)

    The only things that differ, is that you will need to buy bellhousing/flywheel/clutch for the 2JZ.
    All motors will require exhaust mods
    All motors will require some fiddling with heater hoses/radiator hoses.
    All motors will bolt straight up.
    All motors will require the same amount of wiring (unless you get a gen1 5MGE which uses the 5ME loom)
    PowerSteering lines will bolt on to the M blocks, but with RA65 stuff it will bolt on to the JZ blocks as well, so that no more difficult.
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Wouldn't a 2J be starting to push the W57 to it's limits a bit? Wouldn't I need to upgrade the GB to a W58?

    Also in regards to the gen1 5MGE, how would I find out what gen it was? Cheers

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    I wouldn't concerned about the 2j busting the w57. Norbie was running a w57 behind his 2jz-gTe, and still wasn't breaking them terribly regularly.
    torque kills boxes, and a 3L n/a is not going to stress a w57 to its limits
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Well that is good to know if I ever go down that path, thanks mate

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    Wouldn't a 2J be starting to push the W57 to it's limits a bit? Wouldn't I need to upgrade the GB to a W58?[/QUOTE]
    Ahh you have much to learn Kemosabi.
    The W58 is no stronger than a W57 of the same generation (alloy plate vs steel plate).
    If they are both alloy plates (as all pre 1989 W5x's are) then they are identical strength.
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    Also in regards to the gen1 5MGE, how would I find out what gen it was? Cheers
    Twin alternator/fan V-belt and Vacuum advance dizzy means its Gen1

    All of the pre 1984 ones are gen1's, all imports obviously.
    There aren't many around, but there are a few.
    I've come across 3 or 4 without looking
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Cheers for the info mate

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    Default Re: 5MGE into MA61 (changed from 7MGE)

    Okay, it looks like I'll probably be trying to tackle a 5MGE conversion myself. I know it's been done to death and talked about on the old forums so I have gone and done a fair bit of searching and reading last night and I 'think' I might be able to pull it off.... I hope

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    Default Re: 5MGE into MA61 (changed from 7MGE)

    soft.

    If you are going to go to the effort of a conversion, at least go the 7m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSupra
    soft.

    If you are going to go to the effort of a conversion, at least go the 7m.
    I wouldn't be able to do it my self in the current time frame. Atleast with the 5MGE I have a chance at being able to complete it properly and I will learn a LOT along the way. Plus it's not gonna cost me anywhere near as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RObErT_RaTh
    I wouldn't be able to do it my self in the current time frame. Atleast with the 5MGE I have a chance at being able to complete it properly and I will learn a LOT along the way. Plus it's not gonna cost me anywhere near as much.
    So delay the 7m or 2jz conversion until you can, you know the 5mge is going to be tossed in the future its just a stop gap conversion that further prolongs putting a better motor in.

    Unless the 5me goes boom it seems silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7MA61
    So delay the 7m or 2jz conversion until you can, you know the 5mge is going to be tossed in the future its just a stop gap conversion that further prolongs putting a better motor in.

    Unless the 5me goes boom it seems silly.
    Agreed. It's just money wasted imho. I'd spend the dosh you have for the 5m-ge on a 2jz-ge/w58 bellhousing+flywheel, or save for the complete motor... spend some time cleaning it up and prepare the loom for ma61 goodness.

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    Default Re: 5MGE into MA61 (changed from 7MGE)

    It was gonna cost me $2k (mates rates) to get the 7MGE done. Now to do it myself it will cost ~$500 for engine etc plus misc so maybe $1000 and a bit? If I go 2J then that's atleast $1000 right there for the engine, I can't do it myself so we are looking at a LOT in labour costs and on top of that I wont have any window of opportunity to get it done.

    The reason I can do a conversion at the moment is because the parentals are overseas and I have access to another car, as soon as they come back I lose that and I'd have to buy some temp crap box just so I could get around. I'm looking for a project that isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg and I think it will be a good learning experience for me.

    If James can do this conversion in a day/night then I think I should be able to pull it off in just over a month with a bit of help.

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    Good luck - I'm sure it'll be an improvement over a 5m-e anyway.

    To think I gave my old 7m-ge away! Though it would have needed a fair bit of work to get it using less than 4lt of oil per 400kms!
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    Default Re: 5MGE into MA61 (changed from 7MGE)

    May I ask how the 7MGE is so much harder?
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