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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Quote Originally Posted by joecoolmk2
    so why don't YOU do some/most/all the labour? it wouldn't be that hard if you can weld, undo bolts, and use your noggin good
    Cos I'm nub with engines and I can't afford to have my car off the road for that long and me not know what I'm doing. It would probably be so dodgy and break down on me in a week (if it even starts) and would take 3 times longer than it needs to

    On the other hand, I could buy a cheap daily, get my car off the road, clear out the garage, start learning and getting my hands dirty, pay for parts as I go, get some help from my mates, and maybe become part of the twojay crew

    ...I just can't make up my mind except for the fact that I have to get rid of the 5ME somehow

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    you gotta learn someday somehow

    just get someone else to do the wiring aargh the wires!
    beer me!

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Quote Originally Posted by joecoolmk2
    you gotta learn someday somehow
    True, but parents are overseas at the minute and my sister and I have to be self sufficient ie we are paying for everything. Doesn't give me as much for saving as I'd like

    Oh and I've done electronics at tafe, and I build (and cable neatly) computers for a living. I know it would take awhile but I'm upto the challenge of the wiring. It's more the mechanical stuff I'd need help with I think

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    mechanical stuff isn't all that hard. it's 99% common sense.
    beer me!

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Yep, the wiring would be the biggest issue, but not an insurmountable. All round, the 2JZ is a better option, all things considered.

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Quote Originally Posted by joecoolmk2
    mechanical stuff isn't all that hard. it's 99% common sense.
    It's just a matter of me not having the correct tools/materials for the job

    Takai, I'm way ahead of you mate Discussions were in progress just before the engine was even taken out

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Can't speak for the 7M, but the 2J has torque down low, and revs out quite nicely. Again with bolt ons I'm making 134RWKW. Just need to pull 3KW from somewhere
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    Go the 2J, as Glen said I pulled 137rwkw with bolt on items. With a set of extractors designed for the top end you woud hit 145 or more fairly easily which is 1UZ territory, you would have to strap a turbo to a 7M to come anywhere near.

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    Well now it looks like the guy that was going to be doing the conversion for me has pulled out because he thinks even a 7M will be too much work even after all the things I've told him.... He thought by cressida motor I meant the older 5MGE (pffft.....) even though I said many times 7M and linked him to 7M threads and details.... Ohwell I guess there is one good thing out of this, it gives me plenty of time to save and look at my options and if I decide to do a conversion a year from now maybe I'll go down the 2J road as I might have enough time and money to do it then. Thanks for all your opinions guys it's given me a lot to think about

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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Consider it a blessing in disguise

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    Heh, and now i dont have anyone else to compete with when i buy my 2JZ
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Quote Originally Posted by ViPeR_NiPPleX
    Consider it a blessing in disguise
    Yeah you're probably right but I still want to do something now..... Maybe I could attempt a 5MGE swap myself? How difficult would that be? It would give me a good chance to learn a few things and what's involved in a conversion and I would be better prepared for a 2J conversion in the future.

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    I think the money you'd spend on a 5M-GE conversion would be better spent towards bolt ons for the 2J when you get it....It's just not worth it unless you have a 5M-GE lying around and are gonig to do the work yourself....
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    Default Re: 7MGE or 2JZGE? (I've got a week to choose!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemist
    I think the money you'd spend on a 5M-GE conversion would be better spent towards bolt ons for the 2J when you get it....It's just not worth it unless you have a 5M-GE lying around and are gonig to do the work yourself....
    I believe I am able to get one cheap (they have one lying around) and I said the idea was to do it myself and learn something.

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