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    Red face 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    hey guys.just wondering if any of use no if a celica 5speed will bolt up to a 6speed beams bellhousing?
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    no.
    the 6 speed has the BH integreated with the front of the gearbox.

    look at some pictures...
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas View Post
    no.
    the 6 speed has the BH integreated with the front of the gearbox.

    look at some pictures...
    Did you mean it's integrated, as in the bellhousing and gearbox are as one, like a k40/k50 gearbox from an old corolla?

    Looking at Altezza 6 speeds on ebay, it looks like the bellhousing is bolted to the front of the gearbox, so it could be removed? Though the bellhousing does look a little longer compared to a A or T series bellhousing, so it could contain some of the gearbox components.

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    The bellhousing is cast as part of the front gearbox housing, so it is definately not able to be separated from the box by simply unbolting. If you are looking for a bellhousing to bolt to a 3SG, simply find one from a 2S-C engine (ST Corona, or a SA63 Celica), That way you can bolt a W55/57 or W58 to it.

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    If your bolting the box up to a 3S-GE (NA) then go for either a 2S Bellhousing, or a 3/4Y Bellhousing.

    If your bolting the box up to a 3S-GTE (Turbo) then go for a 3/4Y Bellhousing as it puts the starter motor on the inlet manifold side and away from the extra heat of the turbo. Also gives extra room for mounting the turbo.
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    if its for a 3sg(t)e why wouldnt you use the 6 speed???
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by Munki View Post
    if its for a 3sg(t)e why wouldnt you use the 6 speed???
    He has another thread going, where the same question has been asked, (3S-GE int RA65)

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by Munki View Post
    if its for a 3sg(t)e why wouldnt you use the 6 speed???
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    im sure they will hold 200rwkw plus, but of course its all up to the driver. I guess if you are doing ipra racing 5 speed would be the choice.
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    The gear shifter position is further back on the 6 speed compared to the W5x, so that might be a factor. Unless there is a way of shifting it forward.

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    they is a guy on the altezza forums that has sucsessfully bolted a 3sgte into an altezza using the 6 speed with no major issues

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by brucey View Post
    The gear shifter position is further back on the 6 speed compared to the W5x, so that might be a factor. Unless there is a way of shifting it forward.
    brucey, yep there is a way of shifting the selector forward, I have covered it in the other thread.

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by riderzx10r View Post
    they is a guy on the altezza forums that has sucsessfully bolted a 3sgte into an altezza using the 6 speed with no major issues
    6 speed and 3S engine were factory install for Altezza RS200 tho..
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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas View Post
    6 speed and 3S engine were factory install for Altezza RS200 tho..
    that is correct but the same gear box was used for the 1gfe as well I think

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    Default Re: 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by riderzx10r View Post
    that is correct but the same gear box was used for the 1gfe as well I think
    Yes essentially the same gearbox, but the front section/bellhousing is then only suitable for the 1G series of engines, not the 3S's.

    Got a funny feeling that the "G" bellhousing bolts to a "T" engine, but the starter or clutch slave is on the wrong side. Way too many sleeps ago.

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