Engine conversion legalities

[Teknics]

Gday
I have a 03 hilux with a 3rz-fe in it and im wanting to drop something with a lilttle more....well alot more power in.I was thnking of dropping in a 1jz vvti or a 2jz vvti.

The question is will i still be able to get it passed being a older engine in a newer car??? Im hoping i can use the fact that the 3rz-fe was avalible in 95 and both the 1jz and 2jz production stoped after 95 ( i think 97 for 1jz vvti and 2002 for the 2jz).

Does anyone know if its possible? id appreciate any info you can give

Thanks

[AL510]

Generally you have to run the same year or later model engine as the car but it might be possible with engineering and a polution test if you can pass it. You might also be able to fudge it if you can get a reciept that states it as being an 03 model.I am not sure if the transport dept can check the build date from the engine number on import engines.

Cheers, Al.

[Teknics]

cheers, im pretty sure they can... With the emissions i was sorta hoping it being vvti and all it would be more emissions friendly

[river]

Hi,

If they have tightened the emissions limits since the J engines were made, they may not satisfy the requirements. So, you should check the QLD RTA or whatever site it is for such information so you don't go through the expense and time for swapping the engines only to be turned down due to emission failures.

seeyuzz
river

[Teknics]

ok... well since my hilux is 03 plated it must subcome to ADR 79/00 (euro 2) emissions standard.

The xjz's fall under the earlier standard..... does anyone have experience or knowlage of emission outputs from the standard engines?? or has anyone heard about or done it themselfs?

[petergoudie]

If it's an imported engine you should do an RTA emissions test. (Have you thought of a Holden V6 ecotech? Cheap parts and would comply as standard. Need to check allowable RTA engine increase rules first.)

[Draven]

what about 2jz-gte vvti?

that would be after the '00 standard change.

still a distinct possibility of emissions issues, but a better chance (not that those engines are cheap/easy to come by)

[Teknics]

1/1/03 is when the ADR 79/00 changed. The latest model 2jz vvti engine is a 2002 so its just out....... if i can find a the specs on the emssion outputs on the xjz's i can answer my own question

[litldv8]

hi i have a 2000 hilux with a early 1uz in it passed no worries at all
it to had a 3rz in it to start with
find someone to blue plate it first before starting the job and find out what they need to let it pass.
i found someone who whould let me put up to 460 ci in it before i touched the brakes and suspension so long as it had efi and cats.
neil

[Cuzzo]

Why not turbo the 3rz?

[CrUZida]

As you've already said above, ADR79/00 was for '03 and '04 only.

Prior to that was ADR37/01 ('97-'02) which is only slightly higher (mainly on NOx). This means that you would have to pass an emissions test to prove that your '97-'02 engine complies with ADR79/00.
Its probably very do able.

Prior to that was ADR37/00 ('86-'96) which is a higher than 37/01


litldv8 - you are in QLD and they are VERY relaxed compared to other states. Pretty much the rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply there.

[RONA]

Why not turbo the 3rz?

Agree with the above, plenty of info getting on these forums about turbo 3rzs as well.

[85lux]

You can put an older engine into a newer car provided the older engine has been reconditioned to meet the Cars current emission requirements.

This is from the NSW RTA guideline:

To ensure continued compliance with emission standards, any replacement engine should come from a vehicle which
is subject to the same or more stringent emission control requirements. An alternative is for an earlier engine to be
upgraded during reconditioning to more recent engine specifications. All anti-pollution devices should be fitted and
functional.

Hope this helps mate.

[petergoudie]

Be careful because where it says all anti-pollution devices must be fitted it means all the devices that would be on the later engine, if there were extra items fitted to satisfy the later emission standards. Basically you have to make the old engine into a new engine not just give it a rebore.

[CrUZida]

That also only works for putting, say, a VN V8 into a VR.

It doesn't work for putting a 1998 2JZ into a 2003 3RZ powered Hilux