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    Default Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Hey all,

    First post - but I've researched the forums here extensively - has been very helpful.

    Okay, to the point -

    I've got an 1985 Toyota Corona Avante Auto with IRS, which, from info I've gathered from forums here would be a full imported version (ie. blue/grey interior).

    Anyway, I've got issues with the diff - whining slowly getting louder - got it looked at out here and they reckon pinion worn ie. 'needs new diff'.

    What are my options? I understand that I should have an F372 diff in my car, with a ratio of 3.583...and I've found that some F series diff centres are interchangeable? Please tell me if I'm misinformed. (I've had the car for about a year now...)

    So, in short, what is the least hassle way to replace my diff/diff centre. Should I simply hunt down another identical diff, get this one rebuilt or is there some other mod that would be more effective? Just a note: I use this car mainly for cruising - I've just moved to rural Queensland from Brisbane so I rarely drive under 110km/h for very long...

    I appreciate any help!

    Thanks,

    Toyocorona.

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    mines running a 4.1 lsd out of a ma61 in it, according to the previous owner.

    so they should fit i do believe that some of the celica's run the same centre even though they are live axles.
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    F series IRS.

    Many cars come with F series IRS diffs that will bolt in (the whole IRS unit) .

    Getting a whole new IRS diff is by far the easiest IMHO...

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    RA65 Celica (Not RA60 or SA63)
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    MZ1x Soarer (Not MZ12 Manual in case you manage to find rocking horse shite )
    MX73 Cressida
    etc

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    awesome info wilbo widens the field for more spares for mine too
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    If you are doing a lot of highway driving now - i would recommend not shortening the diff ratio, keep the original 3.5:1 or whatever your RT142 originally had.

    The MX73 cressie would be my pick - will likely have a longer ratio, and is less likely to have been thrashed during its life.
    If you want to have fun, you could put the LSD centre from an MA61 with the gears that match your RT142... and have LSD
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Thanks for the insight!

    For my current situation I'm going to look at just replacing the whole diff. I really don't want to shorten the ratio at all, but I guess I'll have to take the first option that comes my way.

    At this stage I don't have time or money to be picking and choosing...as long as she runs!

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    what was the difference between buying an IRS and non-IRS avante back in the day?

    Was it just a tick in the dealer option chart, or an early vs late thing?
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus View Post
    what was the difference between buying an IRS and non-IRS avante back in the day?

    Was it just a tick in the dealer option chart, or an early vs late thing?
    Early vs late (IRS) to my knowledge


    Also, this may help...
    RA65/RT142 manual is 3.58
    RA65/RT142 auto is 3.727
    MA61 manual is 3.9 (clutch LSD)
    MA61 auto is 4.1 (clutch LSD)
    MX73 auto is 3.9 (if I recall correctly)

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666 View Post
    Early vs late (IRS) to my knowledge


    Also, this may help...
    RA65/RT142 manual is 3.58
    RA65/RT142 auto is 3.727
    MA61 manual is 3.9 (clutch LSD)
    MA61 auto is 4.1 (clutch LSD)
    MX73 auto is 3.9 (if I recall correctly)

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    Hang on a second - does that mean that my diff is 3.727 NOT 3.58? Mine's auto and from research I had noted down auto was 3.583...please confirm?

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    you can use a gearset from a live axle F series if you like.

    ie YR22 tarago, MS112 crown etc


    another potential IRS diff donor is MS123 crown and MZ10/11 soarer
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Easiest way to tell what you have is to read the build plate in your engine bay. Motor/trans should read something like: 22RE/F372. It's the F372 bit which is the diff code.

    Then check out one of these pages and see what the diff code means.

    Conceivably the diff has been changed in the car's life (so counting revolutions of tailshaft to wheels is the only 100% definite way to tell) but I'd say it's unlikely.

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    in my experience the live axle gearsets won't work in the irs housing- different crownwheel offsets. but the centres bolt straight in
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    but im trying to use bolts with this car.

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    when you say early vs late for the irs what is considered early and what is considered late
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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy1g View Post
    when you say early vs late for the irs what is considered early and what is considered late
    From memory it is 85-> ? (Don't quote me )

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    Default Re: Corona RT142 Diff Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Hen View Post
    Easiest way to tell what you have is to read the build plate in your engine bay. Motor/trans should read something like: 22RE/F372. It's the F372 bit which is the diff code.

    Then check out one of these pages and see what the diff code means.

    Conceivably the diff has been changed in the car's life (so counting revolutions of tailshaft to wheels is the only 100% definite way to tell) but I'd say it's unlikely.

    Hen
    i think for some reason some of the RT142s dont have the toyota manufactured plate that has that info. ie they have W55s but not many people know because it doesnt say explicitly anywhere
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