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    Exclamation 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Hey dudes / dudettes.

    I'm undertaking a conversion on a mates car during the christmas holidays, so i'm doing my research early. Going from 7MGE Auto to 1JZ-GTE + W58 in his MX83 cressida.

    Now i was wondering which bellhousing i need to use, as we're going to start stockpiling parts soon. JZA70 maybe?

    I've had a search but i can't find anything concrete. Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    For a W58 transmission you'll need a 2JZ-GE bellhousing (JZA80 Supra).

    I strongly recommend an R154 though; heavy car + turbo torque = unhappy W58. In that case you want bellhousing + transmission from a JZA70.

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Thanks for that norbie.

    I've talked over the R154 or W58 thing with him, and we've agreed to use a W58 because:

    They are alot more common

    They are comparativley cheap as chips, which is an issue, considering we're doing this for under $5k

    and there is no trans tunnel modification required to fit one in an MX83. (main reason)

    If he blows it up then we think about a R154.

    Also i'm after a bit of info regarding the clutch / flywheel assembly:

    We will be using a JZX81 front-cut, as they make the whole operation almost bolt in, if you're keeping it auto.

    However, will i be able to bolt up a standard 1JZ clutch/pressure plate to the auto flywheel?

    I have my doubts, but if anyone knows if i can / what clutch + flywheel combo should be used, it'd be much appreciated.

    Javal
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by Javal
    Also i'm after a bit of info regarding the clutch / flywheel assembly:
    ...
    However, will i be able to bolt up a standard 1JZ clutch/pressure plate to the auto flywheel?

    I have my doubts, but if anyone knows if i can / what clutch + flywheel combo should be used, it'd be much appreciated.

    Javal
    NO you can't bolt up a clutch / pressure plate to the auto flex plate

    Totally different beasts!

    If you are going to use a W58 with a 2JZ-GE bellhousing then a flywheel to fit a 2JZ-GE with an uprated clutch / pressure plate is the way to go

    Bear in mind that there will be a fair amount of cost if you do decide to upgrade to the R154 later (new flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, etc)....

    Cheers
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Plus 2JZGE bits arnt the easiest to find.
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666
    NO you can't bolt up a clutch / pressure plate to the auto flex plate

    Totally different beasts!

    If you are going to use a W58 with a 2JZ-GE bellhousing then a flywheel to fit a 2JZ-GE with an uprated clutch / pressure plate is the way to go

    Bear in mind that there will be a fair amount of cost if you do decide to upgrade to the R154 later (new flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, etc)....

    Cheers
    Wilbo
    Haha, cheers, i didn't think they would, but you know toyota...

    I'm aware that 2JZGE bits aren't exactly easy to find, hence why we're looking for parts now and converting in the chrissy holidays

    Thanks guys.

    Javal.
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Dude good luck finding a 2jz bell housing. I hunted everywhere for my mates one and luckly enough brenton from fours n more had one at a pretty penny though.

    Think it was $600 for bell housing and flywheel.

    Fair better off with the r154 alot easier and cheaper in the long run

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    From what i can remember you could still buy a 2JZ-GE W58 bellhousing from toyota new

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Yes you can and they're actually not that expensive, especially if you know someone who can get it at trade!

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    less than $500 ... ask SeptemberSquall
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Not much under $500 though from memory.

    Fidanza/Xtreme flywheels are $400ish.
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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Javal..
    send a PM query to Wildsupra
    his 1JZ into MA61 used a W58 gearbox succesfully just recently.
    he will be able to tell you exactly what clutch/ flywheel/ bellhousing/ mounts and any other random parts you will need and where to find them.
    (sorry, i can't remember of the top of my head - so better to ask him)

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    there's a JZA80 W58 on ebay at the moment

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Thanks all.
    The 18R-G. The GOOD 2 Litre Tractor motor.

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    Default Re: 1JZ -> W58 Bellhousing

    Hmm, none of this matters now, he wrote off the car o_0
    The 18R-G. The GOOD 2 Litre Tractor motor.

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