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    Default max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    Hi everyone just just wondering what the maximum offset stock gaurds will take with a 15x7 wheel
    thanks in advance

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    everyone will have different opinions of wheel fitment ,
    depends on a few things
    how low
    how much camber
    what size tyres
    how you want it to sit poke/flush/sunk

    best to get it to sit how low and how much camber you want
    then measure from the current wheels and use an offset calculator to work out how you want it

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    Rears will be able to swallow a lot more width/neg-offset than the fronts - back when we still had the ST162 it had 17x7 +38 all round, the fronts sat nicely but the rears had +15mm spacers on them to clear the struts and there was still a bit of room to go. In saying that though, +19 spacers (which were on for a short while whilst the +15s were getting made) were enough to cause a little bit of guard scraping, but the suspension was shot so that probably contributed a fair bit too.
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    ah sweet as for wheels
    they are off a zze122 ascent 15x6 with +40mm offset

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    Quote Originally Posted by Ta22 Crazy View Post
    ah sweet as for wheels
    they are off a zze122 ascent 15x6 with +40mm offset
    What model ST162 do you have? ST or SX? If it's the SX then those wheels won't fit, STs are 4x100 but SXs are 5x100
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    As Hiro mentioned, the rear wheels will be swallowed by the factory guards. My 16x7" Lenso RS5's with +38 offset had the same thing happen. The front will look very nice and flush with the front guards, but the rears will need a 15mm hub-centric spacer each to pull off the same look.

    Sidenote - mine is dropped about 15mm at the front (King low's) and stock height at the rear (Pedders replacements).



    As you can see, the differences are subtle, but noticeable if you really look for it. The handling is just as good if not a bit better with a 30mm wider rear stance as well.
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    thanks for all the help guys
    its an st model with the sx motor and gearbox
    a member by the name yellow corolla built the motor for it

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    So would something staggered like +38 up front and then +25 or so to bring it further out be ok or would it have issues hitting on the inside on the strut?

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    not to sure if it will hit the strut but i'll play it safe and just run spacers and use the same offset all round will have a look if i get a chance to throw it on the hoist at work tomorrow

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    It won't hit the strut with +38 and 7", unless you go a size larger in tyre (say 215/55 rather than 215/50) then you can have issues with hitting the underside of the spring perch, like so:





    that was with 215/40/17 tyres instead of 205/40/17 and no spacers on the rear, so gives you an idea how tight it can get
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    ah damn i have 195/55/15 so it probs doing that already haha on at the moment but turfing them for 195/50/15 kuhmo ku31 on 15x7
    not to mention that will correct my speedo aswell

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    195/55/15 should be fine, that's almost exactly the same size as 205/40/17, SX probably had slightly bigger tyres than the ST and since you're using the SX gearbox I assume you'll be using the SX speed sensor/speedo too?
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro View Post
    195/55/15 should be fine, that's almost exactly the same size as 205/40/17, SX probably had slightly bigger tyres than the ST and since you're using the SX gearbox I assume you'll be using the SX speed sensor/speedo too?
    Should being the key word haha

    to be honest not a clue what box what is the gearbox number shall take a look

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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    I think both the ST and SX have S53 gearboxes, just with different final drive ratios...
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    Default Re: max offset on stock gaurds for a st162 celica

    ahk
    would the sx have the final drive ratio
    finally got tvis working today

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