Aftermarket seats that meet ADRs

[wilbo666]

Looking to make a list of my options for aftermarket ADR seats.

This will help me in making a short list of seats to try and go and sit in before buying

Please help to add to my list

List of ADR Seat Manufactures:
Velo: http://www.velo.com.au/, http://www.velo.com.au/VeloSizeChart.pdf
-Most are ADR, but 'VeloSizeChart.pdf' has a nice list that shows if ADR or not.

JustJap: (Which ones?!) http://justjap.com/store/home.php?cat=282
-Bride Style Reclinable Racing Seats - Black >>>This is the only one listed on the JustJap website as being ADR

Autotecnia: http://www.autotecnica.com.au/seats.html
-All? (maybe not A2008?) are ADR

OBX: http://hgeconsulting.com.au/raceworx/obx.htm
-All ADR apparently

List of NON ADR Manufactures:
Sparco: http://www.sparcoaustralia.com/, http://www.sparcousa.com/, http://www.sparcoaustralia.com/files...cing_seats.pdf
-I find no reference to ADR in their PDF

Bride:
-No ADR, FIA Only

Recaro: http://www.recaro.com, http://www.idealseat.com.au/
-Can't find any references to indicate aftermarket seats are ADR

Cobra: http://www.cobraseats.com/ (website is painful)
-ADR TBD

Racetech: http://www.racetech.co.nz/seats.htm, http://www.bsmsport.com.au/racetech_chart.php
-No ADR, FIA Only

Velo are looking like the best bet currently

Cheers
Wilbo

[af300e]

Sparco sprints are good value and ADR/FIA approved. They have high shoulder harness through holes which suit a taller framed person better.

[wilbo666]

Sparco sprints are good value and ADR/FIA approved. They have high shoulder harness through holes which suit a taller framed person better.

Really? The sprint V?

This ebay add has some decent pics of a sprint V, and I can't see an ADR tag?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sparco-SPRINT...QQcmdZViewItem

I can't find any reference via Sparco claiming that...

Also Found this on nissan silvia


Cheers
Wilbo

[Roscos]

Recaro ... no ADR's, l don't think so they are used in by new car makers and the prices they charge they would want to be approved.


Roscos

[YLD-16L]

The Sprint V is not ADR approved, they are FIA approved. I have two of them in my car which replaced a set of ADR approved SAAS recliners.


Surprisingly you can buy some real shitters these days that are ADR approved. I guess they meet the minimum requirement to acquire the ADR tag and nothing else.

Of the ADR approved seats you listed the only one I would look at is the Velo range. Sit in an OBX seat, especially the fixed back models and you'll not want one


Are any of the Cobra range ADR approved? They make nice seats and my car had them at one stage and was regoed and engineered with them on the paper work and my hazt memory tells me they were ADR approved.

[Bananaman]

I've had some of the justjap ones, i don't know id anything has changed since, but the seats were "ADR approved" yet not tagged as such. Autotechnica ones do have tags.

ed: I didn't think my flatmates OBX seats were that bad, better than the justjap and autotechnica ones

[Stefan]

I managed to have my Bride Ergo 1.5 & Brix 1.5 engineered. They did come with proper Bride rails to suit my car however (which is why I bought them in the first place).

Are you looking at fixed or reclinable? Height is an issue with a lot of aftermarket seats, as is finding appropriate rails.

[wilbo666]

Recaro ... no ADR's, l don't think so they are used in by new car makers and the prices they charge they would want to be approved.


Roscos

You'll notice I said aftermarket in reference to Recaros...

-Can't find any references to indicate aftermarket seats are ADR

Thanks YLD-16L, will look into Cobra range.

Yeah at the moment I'm not really fussed on brand, and even to some extent cost so much, I just want to be able to go and put my bum in a number of seats (need to find out what seats are options, and then find places that have said seats), and go from there.


I thinking about a fixed bucket atm, and I realise in xA6x that means going to 2 seaters, which also doesn't worry me. At the same time if I come across a recliner that I like I'm in no way opposed to it


Yeah I must admit I chuckle at the idea that a seat can be 'good' enough for racing (FIA), but not ok to get from your house to said racetrack on the road.

Really hits home as to how dangerous the road is (Or how silly the rule makers are? )


Cheers
Wilbo

[Draven]

while we're mostly on topic, what do people reckon of the sprint V for, say, a trip from sydney to ballarat?

Factory supra seats are nice and comfy... I'm considering keeping them to swap back in for interstate trips.

[YLD-16L]

I drove to Dubbo and back in my Sprint V for Toyota Nationals and it was great. I find them very comfy but that's not to say everyone would be the same. Seats are a very personal thing as far as comfort goes.

That's partly the reason I bought one to start with as if it turned out to be no good I'd relegate it to passenger duties and try something else. After a lot of KM's in it I was extremly happy with the comfort and support so bought another one. The other seat I was looking at was the Ultra (Tec) by sparco but I sat about an inch higher in that so it was no good for my car.

Most of the Sparco/Cobra seats etc I sat in felt good, the SprintV just got me low and was quite narrow which suited my tall slim build.

Edit: The Sprint V was one of the best upgrades I've made for the track too. Soooo much better than fighting to stay in a normal seat and my old seats were quite supportive anyway.

[Bananaman]

Edit: The Sprint V was one of the best upgrades I've made for the track too. Soooo much better than fighting to stay in a normal seat and my old seats were quite supportive anyway.

Pfft. Adam's car with stock ke30 vinyl seats were more than fine on the track*



*if wearing clothes coated in contact adhesive

[af300e]

The Sprint V is not ADR approved, they are FIA approved.

Old sprint is approved though. Apparantly the new importer has not submitted the sprint V for testing as yet.

[wilbo666]

Old sprint is approved though. Apparantly the new importer has not submitted the sprint V for testing as yet.

Can you find anywhere that says that for me, or a pic of the ADR Tag?

Also I can't imagine retrimming a seat would affect its ADR status, but can anyone confrirm?

I'm not opposed to getting something used re trimmed

Cheers
Wilbo

[af300e]

Can you find anywhere that says that for me, or a pic of the ADR Tag?

Also I can't imagine retrimming a seat would affect its ADR status, but can anyone confrirm?

I'm not opposed to getting something used re trimmed

Cheers
Wilbo

I have a copy of the ADR test from the company that performed the test for the Sparco importer. It also lists a number of other sparco models. I'd scan it but I don't have a scanner. If you need a copy I'd be happy to fax it to you.

I spoke to them about the sprint V and basically they are of the opinion that because the frames are the same as the old sprint, that the test for the old one covers the sprint V. In the documents I have, they list the "road" model as complying because it is a similar frame design to the sprint which was tested.
I suppose then that if you can prove that the sprint V is the same design as the old one that it too would be ADR approved.

[Draven]

well, if anyone ay toy fest has sprint V seats I may be found sitting in your car...

[TasCressida]

stefan - engineered and ADR in tassie are 2 different things. if an engineer here deems a milkcrate roadworthy to sit on it overules ADR lol.
backwards i know but so is this whole dam place!


on topic- apprantly the Drift seats Autobarn sell are full ADR. and there dam comfy. and good on the track.
worth a look for the price.

[thechuckster]

My SAAS seats in the RA40 are/were a big improvement on the factory eats - but if you don't get the front height and angle of the base right, after a few hours of driving your legs get sore from poor circulation.

The bolster along the front of the seat tended to push on the back of your legs near the knees.

[Draven]

TasCressida: I'd carefully cehck the road rules - I seriously doubt 1 person's opinion (engineer) overrides the legislated australian standard of safety.

Yes an engineer may well say the seats are fine, but you might find yourself losing that argument against the police when they canary you for non-ADR equipment.

[af300e]

TasCressida: I'd carefully cehck the road rules - I seriously doubt 1 person's opinion (engineer) overrides the legislated australian standard of safety.

Yes an engineer may well say the seats are fine, but you might find yourself losing that argument against the police when they canary you for non-ADR equipment.

I'm quite sure that the role of an engineer is to decide whether a non-complied vehicle/part does in fact comply with ADRs. So, if the engineer is happy to sign that the seat in question satisfies the applicable ADR/s then that seat is legal.

It's like having a 351 cleveland in a corolla. The engine and vehicle as seperate entities each comply with their respective ADR/s. But, put the two together and they do not. Then the engineer signs off on the work done (fabrication etc) to ensure that it complies with relevant regulations.

You may still get a canary, but the certificate is there to cover you so that you don't have to restore the vehicle to stock condition.

[merc-blue]

most engineers will sign of on good aftermarket seats with good, well built mounting. eg sparco, velo cobras.. you cant have a seat with wings though even if they are open wings a engineer would be a idiot to sign them..

Regardless of there "ADR" compliance you still need any aftermarket seat fitting to be engineered to make it legal.
IMO "ADR" approved is more a sales pitch than a indicator of safety or legality. it just means the manufacturer has done a few simple tests to ensure there seats meet the most basic of tests.

Change you seats from stock regardless of what you put in it needs to be engineered to be legit.

find a comfy seat
talk to engineer.
fit
go 'highway racing' in your new seat..