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    Default 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Alright, the time has come, mainly due to a small exhaust leak and on closer inspection cracked mainfold, to change/replace the standard 3tgte exhaust mainfold. I'm still in two minds as wheather to high mount or low mount the turbo. Looking for peoples experenice in what they're used. I will be making the mainfold myself (as I do with most things). Also what internal dia steam pipe will best suit. I hope/know Yellorolla will comment, but also looking for others.
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    Default Re: High mount or low mount turbo

    hey super neil!

    i reckon alot of it is personel preference.

    high mount - look cool/rice, better clearance for turbo, straighter shot for airfilter, heat close to bonnet paint.

    low mount - stealth, easier dump pipe, perhaps less bends in manifold- easier to make?

    any way, that t51 will probly have to be highmounted to fit hehe

    disclaimer - i know nothin about anything, all advice should be immediately dissreguarded before it permanently makes you less intelligent.

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    Default Re: High mount or low mount turbo

    low mount helps get the heat from the turbo out of the engine bay because of the air coming under the car.
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    Default Re: High mount or low mount turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Toy77
    hey super neil!

    i reckon alot of it is personel preference.

    high mount - look cool/rice, better clearance for turbo, straighter shot for airfilter, heat close to bonnet paint.

    low mount - stealth, easier dump pipe, perhaps less bends in manifold- easier to make?

    any way, that t51 will probly have to be highmounted to fit hehe

    disclaimer - i know nothin about anything, all advice should be immediately dissreguarded before it permanently makes you less intelligent.

    cheers
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    Hey super Stew, that sound better than mine
    I think the difference to make/bends will be stuff all. I'm leaning towards high mount as I can then run heater, a/c lines and wiring along the chasie rail giving a bit better clearance and every thing will be getting wrapped and shielded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackel
    low mount helps get the heat from the turbo out of the engine bay because of the air coming under the car.
    I was thinking where the standard carbie feed comes into the engine bay I could use with some ducting on it to push some of the heat down/back towards the fire wall. I guess this could be used in high or low configuration.
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    Default Re: High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added*

    Ok, I decided to high mount turbo.
    I used mid steel steam pipe, and even though most welds were good I decided to flap disc them smooth (the whole maifold actually). The internal welding I have not flap disc yet that's tomorrows job and the turbo plate is not getting welded on until after that is done.
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    nice job, very clean for a home made special!
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Good one Neil - that's about how I'd have done the pipe layout. Don't forget to brace the turbo/manifold to the flange plate and to the engine mount.
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Quote Originally Posted by YelloRolla
    Good one Neil - that's about how I'd have done the pipe layout. Don't forget to brace the turbo/manifold to the flange plate and to the engine mount.
    Wasn't to sure about the bracing. With the current turbo I have, in the standard position, the bottom braket was remover years ago. If I just brace the turbo flange back to the head flange do you think that may be enough or should I really do both.
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    i wish i had the cash for a turbo upgrade on my 3t

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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    would u be interested in making me 1 of these thanks

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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    just put in 2 braces from the turbo flange to the no 2 n 3 runners, that should do it nicely, unless your running somethin crazy like a t88

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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Quote Originally Posted by IN 05 NT
    just put in 2 braces from the turbo flange to the no 2 n 3 runners, that should do it nicely, unless your running somethin crazy like a t88

    lol
    t88 crazy well my mate just farked it off for a cool spl t51r
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    T88 or T51R, aren't they both bigger than a 3tgte
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    This one is not finished yet, but it is a simple manifold to build (I'm not looking for the extra few hp i can get if i build i better manifold).
    I will use a Mitsu TD04 15T from a Saab 95 Aero.
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny blade
    This one is not finished yet, but it is a simple manifold to build (I'm not looking for the extra few hp i can get if i build i better manifold).
    I will use a Mitsu TD04 15T from a Saab 95 Aero.
    Damn straight, that manifold will make less power than the stock one.
    YelloRolla's KE20 1/4mi = 11.32 @ 119mph @ 22psi on slicks
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    all design comment aside, that metal tubing your using looks a bit thin-is it standard exhaust piping?
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Quote Originally Posted by 3t-RA40
    T88 or T51R, aren't they both bigger than a 3tgte

    LOL i think they are but he is looking at making over the 900hp on pump fuel at summernats,

    all i know is that he brought 4 parts last week which cost him my yearly wages just about and is only looking at a 150hp gain,

    building cars aint cheap but competing in dyno comps and shit i just dont want to go there
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny blade
    This one is not finished yet, but it is a simple manifold to build (I'm not looking for the extra few hp i can get if i build i better manifold).
    I will use a Mitsu TD04 15T from a Saab 95 Aero.
    Not trying to be smart mate, but Jase is right, you might be better keeping the standard manifold. I use mild steel steam pipe with a 3.6mm wall thickness I think it was. I think what your trying to use may be a little thin.
    Cheers,
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    Default Re: 3tgte ~ High mount or low mount turbo *Pics Added of high mount built*

    johnny-whut are you putting the manifold on?
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