Need dif 4 KE55

[TIMTAMS]

as stated need a diff for my ke55 to handle 200+kw at the wheels is a cut down r31 diff the go? or hilux or i have a VN diff should i get that modded? I have a high powered 3tgte engine coming and i want to go drag racing and circuit so all help appreciated.

Cheers Graeme

P.s. Im in sydney and any contact's would be appreciated too....

[ROTORACE]

I chose against running a borgwarner because of the limited ratio's. But maybe this isn't such an issue for the 3t if it's going to be fairly torquey, or if you dont want to run tall slicks at the drags etc.
It would be good to use the commo diff housing and axles you already have (28 spline axles) and just have it shortened to suit, fitted with 4.11 gears and also re-drilled to 4x114.3 and fitted with r31 disc brakes, which are the correct stud pattern.
You can also fit r31 disc brakes to a hilux diff without much hassle though, read the latest zoom magazine (or maybe the one before that..)
cheers

[mrshin]

Having done both, I can suggest Hilux well and truly over Bogwarmer.

[Cuzzo]

I chose against running a borgwarner because of the limited ratio's. But maybe this isn't such an issue for the 3t if it's going to be fairly torquey, or if you dont want to run tall slicks at the drags etc.
It would be good to use the commo diff housing and axles you already have (28 spline axles) and just have it shortened to suit, fitted with 4.11 gears and also re-drilled to 4x114.3 and fitted with r31 disc brakes, which are the correct stud pattern.
You can also fit r31 disc brakes to a hilux diff without much hassle though, read the latest zoom magazine (or maybe the one before that..)
cheers

This man speaks the truth. Hilux or R31(Borg warner) all have their pros and cons.

[mrshin]

What do you gain with a Commodore bogwarmer as opposed to Skyline bogwarmer??

[Cuzzo]

The only fact of 4 stud and right pcd from factory other than that nothing....

[mrshin]

Early Hilux diff is much easier to fit, you can change the stud pattern if you want to, although I'd suggest changing the front to 5x114.3 as well. Plus you've got a better choice of centres for a Hilux diff - bogwarmer LSDs are complete crap, and the only good aftermarket LSD (apart from spools, lockers, etc.) is a KAAZ, which is quite pricey. Oh yeah, plus Bogwarmers are always noisy! Think taxi whine...

[TIMTAMS]

ok so hilux.... whiich hilux diff do i rape to get what i need? any idea where to start?

[mrshin]

Look for early Hilux - I THINK RN27 and the one after. You'll know it's the right one when you measure the width. I THINK the leaf spring mounts come pretty close to the old school Corolla ones - ask emp? on these forums as he's done this swap before.

Then you can go centre shopping - get rid of the 4.8 2 pinion open diff, and get a 4.1 LSD into there. Try to raid the pumpkin from MX83 Cressida Grande, Z20 Soarer, A70 Supra, most 4WD Hiluxes, or anything with a Toyota G LSD. Look around and you should be able to find 4.1 (or whatever ratio you want) gears to match, either new or used. The standard LSD can take a moderate amount of abuse if it's pulled apart, checked and shimmed up a lot tighter than standard - make sure you emphasise this to your diff shop if you're not putting the centre together yourself. Being a 4WD fitment, you can also get a variety of aftermarket centres - torsen, clutch, air lockers, mini and full spools, take your pick! Make sure you use good oil in it (I've had good results with that blue, sticky Penrite stuff, but others may suggest something different)

Sorry I can't help with any contacts in Sydney as I'm lucky enough not to live there

[kugzs]

i might have a tailshaft to suit hilux diff - w55 in a ke55.
Dont get your hopes up, but ill check.

[ROTORACE]

I only suggested he use a commo borgwarner, because in his first post it says he already has one sitting around...
Ill be interested to see what brakes etc. you end up running. Im trying to sort out the same problems as you. It's hard to get a setup to do everything.

[TIMTAMS]

Look for early Hilux - I THINK RN27 and the one after. You'll know it's the right one when you measure the width. I THINK the leaf spring mounts come pretty close to the old school Corolla ones - ask emp? on these forums as he's done this swap before.

Then you can go centre shopping - get rid of the 4.8 2 pinion open diff, and get a 4.1 LSD into there. Try to raid the pumpkin from MX83 Cressida Grande, Z20 Soarer, A70 Supra, most 4WD Hiluxes, or anything with a Toyota G LSD. Look around and you should be able to find 4.1 (or whatever ratio you want) gears to match, either new or used. The standard LSD can take a moderate amount of abuse if it's pulled apart, checked and shimmed up a lot tighter than standard - make sure you emphasise this to your diff shop if you're not putting the centre together yourself. Being a 4WD fitment, you can also get a variety of aftermarket centres - torsen, clutch, air lockers, mini and full spools, take your pick! Make sure you use good oil in it (I've had good results with that blue, sticky Penrite stuff, but others may suggest something different)

Sorry I can't help with any contacts in Sydney as I'm lucky enough not to live there

if it wasnt for work i wouldnt live here either!!!!

Thanks heaps all of u for the info and yeah i just suggested commo diff as i do have one laying around, ok ill start hunting

[Cuzzo]

Good luck finding a early model one, i had a bitch of a time. Rang most 4wd wreckers around Western sydney and not one had one, let alone knew WTF I was talking about.

Other option is any hilux diff with 5 stud. Not the crazy 10 stud or whatever it is. Then cut her cut down and resplined.

[TIMTAMS]

Good luck finding a early model one, i had a bitch of a time. Rang most 4wd wreckers around Western sydney and not one had one, let alone knew WTF I was talking about.

so sell me yours!!!!

who ended up having one?

how much?

[Cuzzo]

Ooops sorry i WISH!! I couldnt find one at all. Thats why i went r31 Borg warner.

[TIMTAMS]

Ooops sorry i WISH!! I couldnt find one at all. Thats why i went r31 Borg warner.

oh i see can u please pm how much that cost you etc and where u got it done?

[TIMTAMS]

ok so what are the probs exactly if i go a locker in an r31 diff? alot easier to get just need to get it cut down... is that right?