Holden253 into Ta22

[Rusty]

Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone has done it and how well it does, i am making up one of my ta22's into a fun car used for drifting, motokarnas and burnout comps.

I have found a 253 and all engine parts needed to run just wondering if it will fit in with ease?

Cheers
Rusty

[kugzs]

do you mean 253?

[Rusty]

yeh sorry my bad

[river]

Hi,

Just because you found an engine, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be a good match for a donor car.

The 253 is heavy and will affect the weight distribution of a car as small and as light as a TA22. I don't know of anyone that's fitted a 253 into a TA22, but I know you can get housings to mate the 253 to various Toyota gearboxes.

seeyuzz
river

[Screamn_Sleeka]

The 253 is heavy and will affect the weight distribution of a car as small and as light as a TA22.

meaning that it wont drift for crap...

ask this guy if he thinks it would drift: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Celica-Drag-R...mZ160037736371

I think V8's in light cars are only good for one thing.

[Fattony]

I saw one of these at heathcote a very long time ago. Didnt get a chance to have a good chat with the owner. The car did however run consistent mid 12's.

I dont think it would be a good combo for handling purposes, but it definitely has the potential to move.

[Screamn_Sleeka]

If it was Blue Fattony, u might want to click my link above ^

[takai]

I dunno, a 1UZ with a Hilux rear end should balance out from the 2TG and T-series rear end. I think it would work.
Doesnt mean its sensible to do so though.

[Fattony]

The one i saw was red. It ran a best of 12.2 i think

[Rusty]

ok then the car is not for road use what so ever im just trying to get it to drift nicely without spending lots of money. i have until the 29th to get an engine and everything to make the car drift. i just thought that the 253 would have enough power to make the wheels smoke around the corners...

[skiddz]

a 4age has enuf power for takumi lol, put enough suspension into any car coupled with a semi decent technique then it'll drift

[Rusty]

yeh but the 4age costs shit loads more than the 253

[WindeX]

The engine is probably one of the smaller costs in conversions I reckon most people here would agree. Its the rebuilds, go fast bits, custom bits.

That said it is already in a RWD format and there are heaps of toyota bellhousings. If mine didnt already have a 3sge in it, i would be looking at either the 302 or the 253, just for a rad bit of old school muscle.

[Hokey]

meaning that it wont drift for crap...

ask this guy if he thinks it would drift: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Celica-Drag-R...mZ160037736371

I think V8's in light cars are only good for one thing.

So lead tipped arrow no good for drift? just understeers or something? i would have thought they would be alright and work like a pendulum. with all the weight on front wheels the back end would just pivot round the front

253 would make for a cheap easy conversion. only have to make mounts, bigger rad, maybe upgrade fuel system and prob coil aswell. be a few little other things aswell but wouldn't be too hard

[Rusty]

hey,

i bought the 253 anyway so its prob gonna go in if it doesnt work i can always change back bit of cutting and welding never hurt anyone

[twentyEight]

Mmmm, boat anchor in the front of a TA22...

Me thinks this may be good for burnouts with the extra weight up front!

Grab yourself a tailshaft loop, disconnect the rear brakes, and enter a few comps...

[Wolfie]

253 IMO is a waste of a donor car, sure the engines themself are practically worthless (i gave away 3 running 253 recently as they're just a waste of space no one wants)...only plus is lots of parts, if i were to v8 a car like a Ta22 i'd use a 302 windsor or a small block chrysler, nice and thin with more power...the 318 chrysler engines can be had for around $150, I'm turboing one, doing a stroker for a 1000+ rwhp on a hotrod i'm building (although for that my internals cost ALOT of money, close to $10k, and the turbo close to $7k).

Strong little engines from chrysler and take well to forced induction.

[MRMOPARMAN]

give it a try and see what happens. if it doesnt go as planned, pull the engine and play wth something else. you wouldnt loose that much money if your doing it all yourself. i agree the 253s are boat anchors stock, but modded they can get along alrght.

should be cheap to get some power out of being a holden..

[vh3800]

Why didnt you go with a 308 its the same block just diffrent crank and rods.?

[75Ta22LT]

308 would be the goods over a 253.

Ive seen a 22R conversion (god knows why!) into a ta22.

Made the car WAY to front heavy for handling, just developed MASSIVE understear.
253 or 308 is definitely going to be a heavier unit than the 22R, so the understear is probably going to be magnified.

The 22's where always just a little bit front heavy.

Solution - Big Phat Diff, Always topped up fuel tank.

My spare 22 has a nice little lightweight 4age up front, a lux diff in the rear, and a bigger fuel tank (58L i think). The weight distribution in this thing is 'bootiful'
Ive managed to just keep up with a NA sw20 through some nice windey roads.

Its almost a perfect handling setup, custom front/rear sway bars.

To get a 253/308 into the 22 and expect it to drift is plausible, however the car is going to be so whippy i'd expect to see you spin out 9 out of 10 times.

Instead - Have some fun, hit it with some nitrous, and just get to the drags!