guests viewing my members rides thread

[PlacentaJuan]

herror!

i was wondering why the forums members rides thread is not viewable to guests??

this is just about the only place that i have put so much effort into my members rides thread and even though i got it moved from CLUB MEMBERS ONLY to FORUM MEMBERS ONLY i still can not share it with people who are not toymods forums members.

i have lots of friends, family and people who are interested as well as suppliers and people who would like to help me with problems that i would like to view my thread.

is there any way that this can happen?

otherwise is there any way we can start a poll or something to see how many forums members woud like that section to be open to guests?

or maybe make a new section (although that would be kind of ghey)

i reckon that if you dont wish your thread to be viewed by guests you should be a proper club member and have your thread in club members section.

i woudl really like to share my work with people who are interested, but wont be bothered waiting 2 weeks to have forum membership approved just to view 1 thread!!!

[RONA]

http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13657

[PlacentaJuan]

thats whiskey for you.....

i even replied lol.

anyway, its shill GAY!! i want people to read my thread here, where else can i copy it so people can read it?

[river]

Hi,

Set up your own blog and cut/paste your thread there. However, any changes you make to the thread on Toymods will require you to make them on your blog copy.

seeyuzz
river

[Kirsty2520]

PlacentaJuan,
I know exactly what your saying.

I'll find out the exact reason why it is not available for viewing and let your know but I am pretty sure it is to protect those with nice cars that have posted in there.

All people have to do is actually see a car from on of those threads, Know what it's got in it and then it's fair game for any low life car stealing scum.

I can understand your reasons for wanting it viewable and I'll see what I can do.

[Ben Wilson]

Protection of the cars seems like a bit of a strange argument - If somebody isworried about their car, why would they post information about it? It's not like there is a police check* before the club accepts members..

* - Well, there might be, as a non member, I don't know..

[mtp_69_i]

Originally Posted by Ben Wilson

Protection of the cars seems like a bit of a strange argument - If somebody isworried about their car, why would they post information about it? It's not like there is a police check* before the club accepts members..

* - Well, there might be, as a non member, I don't know..

yeah, I also don't understand this arguement. I thought the members rides threads were there specifically to show-off the fruits of tech and conversion discussions etc. If you're trying to enlist people with an interest in toyotas, letting them see cars owned and modded by members might be a good way to kindle that interest.

[Bananaman]

Its a bit of a case of stopping the minority of people who have ill intentions i'd have thought. Much like you put an alarm on your car to stop randoms stealing it, not allowing randoms to look in depth at what you've got going sounds good to me. The waiting period to sign up (or signing up at all, with real details) would be enough to deter those with ill intent or make them not bother.

[Joshstix]

There is a couple of reasons for this:

1. It stops people from randomly trawling the forum looking for car details
2. It exposes only the technical and club activity side of what the club is about to the public to try and help with getting the kind of forum members joining that you guys are after
3. It does not expose the rubbish that is in a lot of members rides threads to the general public, a lot of people treat a members rides thread as their own little plot on the internet where they can say whatever they want.

[o_man_ra23]

I think there are valid points for both sides of the argument. Personally I would want people to see what goes into my car (when I start the members ride thread, ive got the photos, need to shrink them, scan some film photos in, and start piecing together what I want to put), but as an Electrical Engineer I will be personally attending to the security of the vehicle... so the security system will be semi-secretive, and well hidden from the conversion photos.

Others who dont put in as complex a security system may compromise their vehicle with a members ride thread, or may compromise the vehicle by unwittingly stating the vehicle has little more than locks protecting it, so I can see the board's point of view there.

I do like the idea of outsiders being allowed to view with some sort of identification allowing them to relate their viewing to be drawn back to a member showing them... but this would be a pain for the board to monitor/setup. Perhaps if the person creating the thread could have an option to allow it to be publicly viewed?? In which case they then have a prompt telling them they are liable for any ill actions taken by randoms viewing the thread, but still give them the option.

As a soon to be paying member, I think the board and mods do a good job with the money sent to them (otherwise I wouldnt be willing to send them money), and I think that with the reasons that Josh has shown, the decision to only allow forum members to view the members rides thread was a wise one.

Cheers, Owen

PS, sorry for the novel

[o_man_ra23]

Oh, and I like the idea of allowing outsiders to view the Toyotas For Sale section, which would encourage outsiders to purchase Toyotas (this is how I got my lil brother to buy an RA23 when he would have otherwise bought any random thing he came across at a cheap price)

Cheers, Owen

[PlacentaJuan]

ideally i suppose each individual should be able to choose if their thread is viewable by guests.

this could be done by providing a link only to your thread, thereby stopping trawlers looking at any thread in that section.

also as a paying toymods member i think we should choose who we want to look at our thread.

if people (forums members) dont want their thread viewed by just anyone, then they should become financial members so their thread can be moved to the private section.

the advantage should be for paying toymods financial members, and at the moement i think we are being dis-advantaged by not having this choice, while non-paying forums members get a private section to post about their rides.

also, forcing my friends and family to go through the whole process of joining these forums puts an unnecessary load on people like kirsty, especially when said friends and family are going through the 2 week ( or so) process just to view one single thread.

besides which, if someone wants to troll the rides sectiong to steal cars, the simple (albeit slow) process of registering is hardly a deterrent.

[oldcorollas]

if you really really want other people to be able to see it, why not make a webpage about it?

toymods is not the only site on the internet. you can easily set up a free webpage elsewhere.

[mtp_69_i]

Originally Posted by oldcorollas

if you really really want other people to be able to see it, why not make a webpage about it?

toymods is not the only site on the internet. you can easily set up a free webpage elsewhere.

this sounds like much more work than simply having the option to limit access the a thread to toymods members.

If it were possible, I think the option to allow any viewer to access ones members ride thread would be an invaluable alteration to the current protocol.

I also respect however , that the mods already do a significant amount to ensure the maintenance and security of the site and its members and therefore, in no way intend this post to be a whinge or a dig.

[RONA]

If you really want them to see it just send them your login details

Or find another forum that doesn't have said restrictions and just quote everything on to there and then send them the link to that one

[mtp_69_i]

Originally Posted by 7MA61

If you really want them to see it just send them your login details

Originally Posted by 7MA61

Or find another forum that doesn't have said restrictions and just quote everything on to there and then send them the link to that one

that's also an option. In my experience, celicatech.com is an excellent website with great hosting facilities. It also has the added security of being in the states, therefore you're at less risk from the theives trolling members rides for tasty cars.

[PlacentaJuan]

yes i know that 'going to another forums' or 'make your own website' are other options for some people.

i don't want to do this.

i would rather improve how the toymods forums works at the same time.

i do have another members ride thread at cressida forums, but i like my toymods one better.

its not only the pictures and posts i have made, but its the posts that other toymods members have made too that changes the 'flavour' of the thread, and made it my favorite.

i hope that the official line isnt "we dont care, go join another club if you dont like it here"

also the reasoning behind the members rides threads being what it is just doesnt make sense.

i know the mods have a lot of work to do, but as wagonist said in the other thread, he wants people to join just to view my members rides thread, isnt this increasing the workload? to the point of being rediculous when you expect people who are not interested in cars to join just to view one thread?

[oldcorollas]

i think it is more that the forum software does not have that ability implemented, and so it is not just a tick of a box away.

as said before, club members rides are for those people who don't want general forum members to look at their car/mods.
forum members rides are for people who don't mind the rest of the forum looking at their car/mods.
it is easy for you to demand that anyone in the general public be abel to see just your car in the members rides, but maybe not everyone else wants this?

if the code for the forum software has this option, to let your thread alone be viewable to the genearl public, then fine, but i still don't see how it is a big deal for you to copy the comments to another thread/site.

no-one is saying you have to join another club, no-one is saying that everyone who wants to find out details abotu your car has to become a forum member.

grow up and make a website for your car, copy the pictures and comments, and then you keep the "flavour".
many people here have sites for their cars... i think my site was possibly around before toymods even existed

forums are not the only place ont he internet.... there was a time when forums didn't even exist in this format, so get over it.

[Lambolica]

Firstly in regards to the classified section not being available from the previous thread. If outside users see that Toymods has an extensive forsale section there is an element that will join purely to sell stuff. this made up a large portion of the forum members on the old forums. This lead to dodgy sales dodgy sellers and alot of wookies getting on to sell stuff and otherwise living in the outhouse creating trouble. This was giving the Club a bad impression both externally and Members were sick of it and members were getting driven away.

The New forums gave the opportunity to have more control over the forums and keep the wookie factor down and the information level up. Part of this was attracting people who wish to contribute to the forums not use it as a free classifieds or a general talk sh*t forum. Closing the forum to outsiders is part of this.

Now, that brings this to the Members rides section. The Club members section is closed to regular forum members much for the same reason as the Members rides is locked to the outside user. the Club members have a choice as to weather they wish there projects to be available to the rest of the forums or all of the "secret goodies" are in the Club section and a general blurb is in the Members rides. When the classifieds and the Non-Car discussion were closed the board made a decsion to close the members rides as well as a saftey measure.

The reason being, basically there are alot of threads that have un-edited photos of their cars that contain their number plate, enough information for a general suburb in the text and in a few cases phone numbers can be found. enough information about the car, the general whereabouts, and how many goodies that can be swapped in to another car. Not everythread is like this but there enough to be of concern After Stitts Wagon and a few other attempted thiefts and specific parts being stolen from garaged cars. the Board decided to protect the members who unknowingly provide this kind of info by simply keeping it within the forum circle.

I have had the issues of showing people threads and not being able to send a link.

I can bring this up at the next board meeting for discussion for the Members Rides section only as the other areas a (I believe) justified being private.

Cheers
Simon

[oldcorollas]

this could help