View Full Version : RA23 vs 2JZ-GTE Part 2 (Now with Pics)
bugeyedcreepy
17-05-2006, 09:57 PM
Well, here I am with another progress report, still working on fitting up the Mk3 Front and Rear, this is a leadon from an earlier post "RA23 vs 2JZ-GTE" found at http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5785 . I've got the IRS subframe dummy fitted and initial pics to highlight the issues I've so far come across. Interesting though is much of where old and new meet is surprisingly compatible, especially the simple things like intended mount points (rear goes straight through the Chassis Rails, the front looks to be even moreso accurate to the rails) and the RA23 handbrake cable looks to be nearly identical to the Mk3 puller. I've already chucked the old engine and diff, W50 gearbox and RA23 front end is about to help compact the garbage in my wheelie bin. On getting these two subframes fitted, I get to call my engineer to come sign off on it.
I have a bunch of questions to put forward but right now, I don't have the time to be that organised... I guess I'll post a more coherent list when I get my thoughts together...
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear01-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear2-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear3-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear4-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear5-b.jpg
So when I finally bolt in the 2JZ-GTE and V161, do I get to call this contraption a JZA23...? :D
mrshin
17-05-2006, 10:51 PM
I was actually thinking about a very similiar idea the other day with the A70 subframe - keep up the pics, I'm fascinated to see how this goes!
mullett
17-05-2006, 11:11 PM
Brilliant effort, it's great to see someone who just jumps in and tries it. So you're planning on getting this thing legal, licensed, and on the road? Good stuff. I'll keep watching, impressed.
RM.
Grant
18-05-2006, 08:05 AM
So is this mod legal in the ACT?
The Witzl
18-05-2006, 08:10 AM
the ACT can do whatever they want!!! It's SOOOOOOOOO not fair!!
(of course getting it engineered could be hard, if you didnt know the right engineer)
tricky
18-05-2006, 08:51 AM
That, my friend is a tops effort! That'll look mean with some serious flares. In about a year, I shall be doing the IRS conversion with an S13 rear end (or maybe FD RX7).
JZA23, eh? I think in almost every respect, this will be a JZA70 on a diet! There won't be much 23 left... Any ideas what engineer you'll be using? And this beast in Canberra? I look forward to seeing it in the flesh, probably ridiculously sideways, scaring the crap out of some domestic V8!!
timbosaurus
18-05-2006, 09:02 AM
Hey Bugeyed!
Good luck mate, it's a big job! Can't wait to see the progress!
Any chance you had all ur old running gear on allclassifieds a few weeks ago? If it was... it was a bargain to whoever got it!
bugeyedcreepy
18-05-2006, 12:09 PM
Hey Bugeyed!
Good luck mate, it's a big job! Can't wait to see the progress!
Any chance you had all ur old running gear on allclassifieds a few weeks ago? If it was... it was a bargain to whoever got it!
Yep,
That was me... Wanted to throw it up here but this site has different priorities these days & I was just happy to see it go.
You're right, it was a bargain... :D
bugeyedcreepy
18-05-2006, 12:18 PM
More Pics!
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear6-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupRear7-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupFront1-b.jpg
http://www.spartacle.com.au/homeground/~sikoa/SuspensionFitupFront2-b.jpg
John Wilson is my engineer in the ACT, This is my wife's car but where someone says we have all the advantages, luck, etc. because we live here, I'd beg to differ. My project car up in Townsville is a very similar beast tho it's a Cortina wearing the same Mk3 Supra suspension but like this Celica has also received preliminary go ahead by that state's certified automotive engineer to do it.
timbosaurus
18-05-2006, 12:36 PM
Yep,
That was me... Wanted to throw it up here but this site has different priorities these days & I was just happy to see it go.
You're right, it was a bargain... :D
I was obviously too late! all i really wanted was the rocker cover! :p but the rest of the spares woulda been nice too!
I might be able to help you with new flares if you want.
bugeyedcreepy
18-05-2006, 01:49 PM
I might be able to help you with new flares if you want.
I Want!
...don't suppose you could help with fibreglass front quaters, bonnet and chin spoiler too...?
I Want!
...don't suppose you could help with fibreglass front quaters, bonnet and chin spoiler too...?
hmmm... I'm not sure if Phil is making *A23 chin spoilers or just TA22 ones. However, a mate in Belgium is making reproduction flares, ducktail rear spoilers and front spoilers for TA22s. Which if Phil reads this thread, I need to send you an email regarding these items :)
Anyway, he is moulding these from genuine Toyota items he purchased on Yahoo Japan, so I suspect the ducktail will have Toyota imprinted on it, although not entirely sure of this. However if it is the case it makes it a lot more desirable.
Depending on how big your budget is, carbon fibre panels are made in Japan for early Celicas. As far as I know, my mate doesn't make panels and bonnets, just the race car lookalike parts.
also try this guy
http://www.canberracarstyling.com.au/gallery_index.php
but see Phil Eacott first as he will be able to source most fibreglass stuff
Cheers
Jeremy
twentyEight
20-12-2006, 03:00 PM
Scott,
Do you have any updates on this?
More pics please!!!
stradlater
21-12-2006, 08:12 PM
seconded..
bugeyedcreepy
23-12-2006, 11:06 PM
:D
Funny you should ask... getting heap of pics as I go, just trying to finish the mounted items in their entirety before I start "Part 3". The front end is all but mounted, the rear is mostly cut in and I'm in the throes of working out how the hell I'm gonna get coilovers into a reduced Celica rump... the Mk3 has a tall strut dammit... :( I've got photos of the overhanging wheels front and rear along with pics of the modified front and rear subframes to fit.
On another note, I checked out my Cortina up in Townsville this week, the Supra frontcut is in and it looks Sooo SCHWEEEEET :P I'm thinking the next Celica I'll do will probably just have the same thing done to it... has heaps of space to wedge all sorts of things into it and none of this having to cut up the subframe either. It still hangs all the original panels and valance for that outwardly factory appearance, how can I go wrong???
o_man_ra23
28-12-2006, 05:38 PM
Damn, this is looking good. For your fibreglass panels, try finding Nick Streeter. Search the Classic Celica Dedicated Thread (under general car talk) and you will find his contact details. Phill Eacott is doing RA23 chin spoilers as I have already asked him about them.
Keep up the good work on the JZA23, and let us know how the corty goes too. Be interested in seeing it on the streets. If your ever going to do a run through Mackay, let me know so I can have a perv.
Cheers, Owen
PS, who is your engineer in Townsville??
bugeyedcreepy
29-12-2006, 06:09 PM
Damn, this is looking good. For your fibreglass panels, try finding Nick Streeter. Search the Classic Celica Dedicated Thread (under general car talk) and you will find his contact details. Phill Eacott is doing RA23 chin spoilers as I have already asked him about them.
Keep up the good work on the JZA23, and let us know how the corty goes too. Be interested in seeing it on the streets. If your ever going to do a run through Mackay, let me know so I can have a perv.
Cheers, Owen
PS, who is your engineer in Townsville??
Hey, Thanks heaps for the pointer on the flares, etc... I've been chasing this up recently :D Dave Price is my engineer in Townsville, 07 4779 7878. He did a few things for me, most notably, the last Cortina I built with an XR6 engine. He did a great job then and he's got my Lime Green Cortina XR6T project in there now (it'll be Cardinal Red before it gets registered...) if you ever get a chance to go past, looks bizzare to see the Supra engine bay in a Cortina...
Anyway, where was I.... Oh Yeah! I may be building my own flares, I'm pretty sure not a lot of makers of flares would've made them as wide as I need them, I know there's ways around it but I am prudely fussy about the look of such things and how it fits into the whole package. I'm a big fan of the natural lines of classics in general and it annoys me I have to flare it in the first place. I'm very big on function over form, it shits me to tears when I see any car wanked right up on oversized impractical bodykits, reflectors & sundry "Huge Horsepower Inside" badges while sporting those fashionable standard rims and a bog stock underpowered factory engine...
I'm about to start a new thread to record more updates on this RA23 (including a concept photoshop mockup), front and rear of the Celica is mostly cut in, will be sharing my ideas on final mounting and will ask some Q's on best ways to accomplish some stuff... best I do this while I have the time over the next coupla days... :)
Thanks Guys!
o_man_ra23
02-01-2007, 02:07 PM
Ill be dealing with Lindsay Stone for my conversion, as he travels to Mackay reasonably regularly and I know a few people who have dealt with him and are very happy with his work/rates.
You seem to be dropping a fair wad of cash into projects, dont want to sponsor another RA23?? haha. Ill try and have a squiz at the cortina next time im up at brownsville, but with buying a house, I dont think Ill be travelling too often.
Cheers, Owen
twentyEight
16-02-2007, 11:10 AM
Scott, you have a PM...
JAIFRESH
12-06-2007, 07:02 PM
update :)???
the ACT can do whatever they want!!! It's SOOOOOOOOO not fair!!
(of course getting it engineered could be hard, if you didnt know the right engineer)
NO NO you can't. everyone thinks that, You do know NSW rego is looser than ACT rego?
I wasn't even allowed to get a bolt in 1jzgte registered in a MA70....
Hash_ra23
18-06-2007, 06:15 PM
just found this thread and just wanted to say great work! and thanks alot for the comments on the pics, really helps for me :D
TA-022
20-06-2007, 12:18 PM
must .... have .... progress ... pics
feeling ... withdrawl!:o :D
bugeyedcreepy
23-06-2007, 08:59 PM
nearly done update 3... it's a bit of a novel, just waxing up pics now...
Mitch RA28
04-08-2007, 11:03 PM
hey, where's this novel :P
get me all excited. this thing is going to be a beast.
like o man said, don't suppose you want to sponser another classic celica build? :D
nah, looking really good... what do you do for work? you seem to have more spare change to throw at cars than your average households collective income, lol
good luck on it all
cheers
bugeyedcreepy
05-08-2007, 10:15 PM
hey, where's this novel :P
get me all excited. this thing is going to be a beast.
like o man said, don't suppose you want to sponser another classic celica build? :D
nah, looking really good... what do you do for work? you seem to have more spare change to throw at cars than your average households collective income, lol
good luck on it all
cheers
:D
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