Toyoshow 2008

[TC1600]

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For more information visit www.toyoshow.com

[Hengsta]

Adelaide Toyoshow 2008
February 1st, 2nd and 3rd
Wigley Reserve, Glenelg, South Australia

Friday: Super Cruise
Saturday: Dyno Competition
Sunday: Show n Shine and Sound off competition

Heaps of prizes to give away!

Open to all Toyotas and Toyota inspired cars.

Go to www.toyoshow.com

Click here: TOYOSHOW 2008 ENTRY FORMS, INFO SHEETS ETC
Get your entry forms in as soon as possible, as spots are limited.
Dyno is limited to 40 cars. < Please dont be scared

Entries need to be in before 30th Jan 2008 to avoid late fees

Anyone is gonna be up for this one???

Im hoping my car will last until then lol

[truenosedan]

this show FAILS

[TC1600]

Can you be a bit more specific? We are open to ideas for improvement, but we need details of what you want improved.

[truenosedan]

i was gonna post on ttc.net but i lost my password

yeah, the show is shit full stop.

poorly represents toyotas makes me embarrassed to own one.

the judging is beyond a joke, even after the outcry from the year earlier about a stock sportivo turbo wins again. even riced out shit boxes that usually dominate cant get a free sausage let alone some silverware

the categorys are a complete joke 'most kms on the cruise' its all so silly to me, which is probably why adelaides best toyotas do not enter. and calling people up on technicalities such as saying andys stock jdm levin with springs, wheels and a bucket seat was in the 'race' category for having a harness. what a joke.

its great to get feedback from the judges but when they are so biased and obviously have no taste in cars and modifications people become disgruntled with the show and dont enter.

if the current trend continues you are going to have a couple of scissor doored NA supras, some 5sfe celicas incl naked firemen on the doors, and of course the all conquering stock 7afte corolla and a sprinkling of other cars.

i would love to help out to help improve the show, it is poorly marketed and entrants feel left in the dark as to what the judges are looking for and how they score is often inconsistent.

can the best car please win in future and not be judged for

best behaved, first paying, most punctual to the cruise, most kms on the cruise, helped out most with setting up, encouragement award for this that an the other, longest member on the board, most posts on the forum.

you need set categorys, and you need to stick to them. Understand current styling and dont say the car is too dirty or too rough cos it hasnt been washed or the guards are flared.

if you want more info on how i believe you could improve your show feel free to email me or call me

my phone number is plastered all over the 'net

cheers



ps. dont mean to sound harsh, im trying to help to rag on your show, top work for organising and running an event on that scale but to make it more appealing to the average toyota enthusiast please take some advice on board.

[truenosedan]

spoke to TC1600 tonight on the phone and hopefully we can work together to improve the show

i made the above post in a shit mood so came out harsher than perhaps it shouldve

cheers

looks like the judging is getting a rehash and all styling ideas will be considered but ill be at a ttc meeting in the coming months and im sure we can work together to make a better, stronger community

[RObErT_RaTh]

I went with a mate to the dyno day, was alright. My memory isn't the best but I don't believe I saw any Turbo Mk4's whilst I was there, they were all NA but a white one with a big wing was packing a 1UZ-FE that made 152rwkw. Other 2JZ-GE Mk4's made between 115-130rwkw I think. Saw a nice Turbo A there that made a bit over 200rwkw but then along came a grandpa spec corona I think which had a chev 383 hidden inside which made plenty of noise and power but WAY too much torque, struggled to get a proper dyno reading out of it.

I remember seeing a mega ricey camry, green with tribal vinyls or whatever all over it, made just over 70rwkw I think? More of a show car really. Also the 2JZ-GE silver mk4 had a pretty decked out interior with snake skin and big stereo etc but the fact that the engine appeared to be bog stock disappointed me :(

[gianttomato]

Orsm hektix!!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Chobis/080203%20Toyoshow%20-%20SA/080203Toyoshow12.jpg

[Hybrid]

Wow, looks like a huge turnout?

/scarcasm off



Orsm hektix!!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Chobis/080203%20Toyoshow%20-%20SA/080203Toyoshow12.jpg

[beatle]

yeah, but your car would have to be on the road for that ;)

[Hybrid]

yeah, but your car would have to be on the road for that ;)

LOL yes true true :P

[PlacentaJuan]

yea i heard it was even crapper than last year, i was really suprised because i didnt think it was possible go get any crapper.

whats the deal with the winners, all we get is names i want to know cars, dyno results etc.

also cant find pics.

[Andy 86]

I would like clarification on why certain cars won certain trophies...

i cannot fathom how a realatively std corolla can beat all sorts of show cars to take out the overall weekend again. The silver supra was far from what i would call my taste in cars, but it was still more "showy" than the corolla.

also interested on how the original classes were judged, as i don't really think that an old rolla with a holden motor in it is particularly original... (as cool as it might be)

[DARKMAZE]

i cannot fathom how a realatively std corolla can beat all sorts of show cars to take out the overall weekend again. The silver supra was far from what i would call my taste in cars, but it was still more "showy" than the corolla.

The write up clearly explains why this is, and also that the another car would likely have won had it fitted the criteria for toyochamp.

Damian Horton taking the most points for the show and shine, approx 30 points above Lesley Nadin - however Lesley had competed in all events and was eligable for ToyoChamp, Damian wasnt. (ToyoChamp must complete the cruise, dyno, sound off and show and shine).

[DARKMAZE]

yea i heard it was even crapper than last year, i was really suprised because i didnt think it was possible go get any crapper.

whats the deal with the winners, all we get is names i want to know cars, dyno results etc.

also cant find pics.

I understand that the winners cars have been postede along with results now. If you have any criticism / advice / comments to make on the show, the organisers would appreciate it if you could provide it on the toyoshow forum (http://www.toyotacarclub.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=toyshow) as all suggestions are taken seriously, but the organisers do not necessarily get a chance to look through all the possible other forums to find comments.

Remember that the show is not held for profit but for the people, and as such anyone is welcome to input, and serious offers of help to organise the show would be welcomed. If you think that something can be done better, then feel free to help out, or at least offer constructive advice as to how it can be improved. Holding shows such as this requires a massive organisational effort. One area that is hoping to be overhauled for next year is the scoring, so if you have any good ideas in the regard, they would be especially helpful. If you want changes, then the best way to make them is to get involved.

[HKS_TRD]

I'm gonna hire a Yaris and take this show out next year, fuck the Supra, its too lame :D

[DARKMAZE]

I'm gonna hire a Yaris and take this show out next year, fuck the Supra, its too lame :D
Do you happen to have any positive thoughts as to how YOU could improve the show so your supra is not too lame?? I'm sure the organisers would love to know them.

Or are you saying you are happy with the show, and it shouldn't change, and want to enter next year with a hired yaris??

[PlacentaJuan]

how many 'organisers' were displaying their own cars again this year?

maybe they should dedicate 100% of their time to just organising or something?

btw i would rather see a yaris than a supra where the owner is too shy to open the bonnet coz all he has is rice.

[HKS_TRD]

Thats nice.

[truenosedan]

Orsm hektix!!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Chobis/080203%20Toyoshow%20-%20SA/080203Toyoshow12.jpg


[I]note the genuine trd seat covers, actually used in real racing cars[/I

that car used to have the plates tattooed

[truenosedan]

The write up clearly explains why this is, and also that the another car would likely have won had it fitted the criteria for toyochamp.


which refers back to my point on people going to every event, can the best car PLEASE win

this says to all other contestants, rock up in a stocker, go in every event possible and you will win

there must be some serious bias with the way things are scored! as in some insignificant things must affect your score

also losing points for not having a first aid kit or a fire extinguisher is BS

[The Real Roadrunner]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/Chobis/080203%20Toyoshow%20-%20SA/080203Toyoshow12.jpg
I remember seeing a mega ricey camry, green with tribal vinyls or whatever all over it, made just over 70rwkw I think? More of a show car really.

RWD camry FTMFW HKSWTFBBQ!!!!!shift111!!11one!eleven!111

cant honestly tell me thats the best thing to rock up? whats wrong with you radelaidians?

put me in for a yaris next year too. Wheres autobarn? i need a roof mounted alloy dual plane spoiler thingy and an intercooler airbox doodad or whatever you young whipper snappers call them.

I've been working my ass off for the past 3 months so hopefully ill have this finished in time for the next one. I'll be aiming at overall weennaaahhh.
http://filer.case.edu/~jsh28/drew/image022.jpg

[DARKMAZE]

which refers back to my point on people going to every event, can the best car PLEASE win

this says to all other contestants, rock up in a stocker, go in every event possible and you will win

there must be some serious bias with the way things are scored! as in some insignificant things must affect your score

also losing points for not having a first aid kit or a fire extinguisher is BS

From what I understand, the idea of the toyochamp award was placing it so as a show pony trailer queen couldn't take it out. There is no bias in it. It only requires you to be involved in the Cruise, Dyno, Sound off and Show events, the idea being that a true enthusiast would want to drive their car, and not just spend mega buck on someone just to show it off at the show and shine never to see the light of day otherwise. They may take out the show and shine (look at the fact that the corolla didn't take out any other awards), but toychamp is won by the highest scoring show n shine participant that also appeared at the other events.

The judging has been done by the Street Machine association, so there is no bias there. And WHY would they want to bias something towards someone that has nothing to do with the organisation of the event anyways? Are you suggesting they just randomly chose a car, and then bias towards that??

As for your comments on safety features such as a first aid kit / fire extinguisher, I can't comment on those.

[DARKMAZE]

RWD camry FTMFW HKSWTFBBQ!!!!!shift111!!11one!eleven!111

cant honestly tell me thats the best thing to rock up? whats wrong with you radelaidians?

put me in for a yaris next year too. Wheres autobarn? i need a roof mounted alloy dual plane spoiler thingy and an intercooler airbox doodad or whatever you young whipper snappers call them.

I've been working my ass off for the past 3 months so hopefully ill have this finished in time for the next one. I'll be aiming at overall weennaaahhh.

I'm certain that the camry wasn't the best car there. I've found some photos in the following locations:

http://gallery.toyoshow.com/?level=album&id=10
http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh144/SoulSearcherAUS/?action=view&current=c6c79a72.pbw
http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh144/SoulSearcherAUS/?action=view&current=aad7a2ee.pbw

[DARKMAZE]

I see that the organisers have setup a forum dedicated to toyoshow.

http://forum.toyoshow.com/

I'd suggest that if you are unhappy with the current running of the show, and want a better show, then hop on there and make your ideas known. If you are happy with thinking that a hired yaris is a better car to win a car show, then do nothing, and nothing will change. It's a show for you, so do something constructive about it to evolve the show into what the people want to see. I know for a fact that some of the organisers don't have toymods accounts, so posting comments on here has no effect unless someone else happens to pass your thoughts on, to which you will not nessicarily see any discussion on.

[HKS_TRD]

I dont speak English so I cant get on that forum. Pity.

[gianttomato]

Just wondering what sort of Toyota this is? I suppose the engine is out of a Toyota Lexcen so that's why it's there??
http://gallery.toyoshow.com/thumbs/lrg-419-toyoshow08024.jpg

[PlacentaJuan]

some people dont have the time or inclination to organise someone elses events.

they have jobs, cars to work on, and better car shows to look foward too.

just had a look at the forum & lolled

if people refuse to take critisism from anywhere but their own forums then that is just stupid and this show will get worse and worse.

if i hate macdonalds im not going to walk into their head office and ask to chat to the gm.

its up to them to find out what is wrong with their own business and change it.

a lack of criticism in your own office does not mean everytihng is perfect.

do you agree that there are problems with this car show? coz you kind of sound like you are defending it and its a really top show with well thought out decisions regarding who should win.

[Hybrid]

I officially retract my comments about maybe entering this event. Looking through those photo's was laughable, i mean a corolla with a spray painted black bonnet??!?!?, a stock standard 4x4 on show etc......what a joke.

This event fails, just like the organisers 7M.

[toyotacarclub.net]

some people dont have the time or inclination to organise someone elses events.
Err, so even helping an event is out of the question? wow, after all the work we do you wont even try help by posting your thoughts and suggestions? you'd rather just make some ill-informed comments?

they have jobs, cars to work on, and better car shows to look foward too.
All the people that put the show on work full time, the show is NOT FOR PROFIT.

just had a look at the forum & lolled
? I'm reading your comments and lolling.

if people refuse to take critisism from anywhere but their own forums then that is just stupid and this show will get worse and worse.
Some people have a look at the forum and still dont leave comments! I'm not about to go 'chase down' comments on every forum. We asked people to leave comments on the site so that the people required see them, and then can act on them.

if i hate macdonalds im not going to walk into their head office and ask to chat to the gm.
But would you fill in a feedback forum? or would you go back to McDonalds again?

its up to them to find out what is wrong with their own business and change it.
Thanks to other entrants we have seen issues with our show, and we are taking action to rectify those issues.

a lack of criticism in your own office does not mean everything is perfect.
Nothing is perfect, and we acknowledge that we need to change/improve the show, however, without knowing how or what to improve and fix it's awfully tricky. Please provide us with feedback.

do you agree that there are problems with this car show? coz you kind of sound like you are defending it and its a really top show with well thought out decisions regarding who should win.
The only thing we could defend is trying to get people to post comments/suggestions and bitching on our forums. Some of the toymods people have infact attended our meetings, I dare say they are satisfied that we are trying to improve the show.

I officially retract my comments about maybe entering this event. Looking through those photo's was laughable, i mean a corolla with a spray painted black bonnet??!?!?, a stock standard 4x4 on show etc......what a joke.
I'm not sure what you'd like me to do about the cars that wish to enter, perhaps tell them they dont have enough bling? What car do you have?

This event fails, just like the organisers 7M.
However, I put a lot of time in to this show and organising it. I'm more than happy to hear suggestions for improvement, however I'd say your just a keyboard warrior - I live in the real world.

Oh yes, and the judging will be changed for next year, the categories will be changed and we will be trying to get a more enthusiast feel. We know that some of the cars there arent show cars, but we arent trying to compete with AutoSalon or Extreme Horsepower.

If you genuinely want to help, please post at toyoshow.com - if you want to sook, post here.

[toyotacarclub.net]

We are looking into hosting a motorkhana for next years show

Can I get some feedback if you think a motorkhana would be a good addition

Thanks.

[jfallen]

I'm in, Khana and all

JOrdan

[toyotacarclub.net]

Thank you to everyone thats given feedback for ToyoShow 2009, I've made a list of the purposed changes, but these arent set in stone so feel free to comment!

First of all, it'll be over a long weekend. The weekend of the Adelaide Cup infact, this gets it away from the Big Day Out (that I keep missing out on!) and gives us another day to use for the show. (Read below)

ToyoShow Motorkhana!!
This will be not counted towards scoring, just some cheap fun for entrants. We will be limiting the entrants to 40 for the motorkhana, it'll be priced into the show and will require a CAMs license. (As part of the CAMs insurance)

The scoring system is getting a complete re-work;
There will be 3 categories for the show cars; Show, Enthusiast and Classic.
Show will be required to have a full display, including the carpet under the car, a 'border' and some type of display board. The show cars will be judged for under caridge cleanliness but will also score bonus points for the display. The displays DID NOT count towards ToyoShow in previous years.
Enthusiast will not be required to have a full display, but will score full points for under caridge cleanliness automatically (and some other bits that every day cars cant be expected to have/meet) and all these cars must be registered. Enthusiast is for the everyday driven car, or the drift pig alike.
Classic is for cars 25 years and over. Classic will score bonus points for every year of age - as we are all aware it's hard to restore an old car, and it's easier to clean a new one!
All 3 categories will be eligable to ToyoChamp, however they must do the cruise, dyno and show. (Not the motorkhana).
The one other suggestion we've been hearing a lot if the judges; do you think we need to replace there judges we use? please let us know if you agree!

The sound off will be run again with a standard test CD to make it fair on everyone. Everyone will be forced to keep to the 2 run limit. Sound off did not, and will not count towards ToyoChamp.
The Dyno Day will run as it did in previous years. The score did not count towards ToyoChamp, but was part of the criterior for being ToyoChamp. There is also now a 'perpetual trophy' for Dyno champ - this will be kept at Boostworx.
The cruise route will change and the 'scoring' for fun prizes will be enhanced / changed or ditched (TBA), this hasnt been decided yet. We would be keen for any good ideas however.
There WILL be shirts available for ToyoShow 2009
There WILL be a DVD.
The exhaust test will be ensured with a backup testing device and better procedures.
On a side note, all the scoring will move to a computer based system to ensure the judging is enhanced, and will allow us to get the results out a lot faster than previous years.

Thanks for all you input guys!!
Are there any other ideas or suggestions? Please sent them in!
Hopefully the new changes will 'fix' the problems in previous years and make for a great Toyota enthusiast weekend!

oh, and we have a huge gallery at www.toyoshow.com