3SGTE in AE82 Corolla

[tai_180sx]

i have a spare 3SGTE motor out of a 91 GT4 celica and just wanted to know what would be invovled in fitting it into an AE82 corolla with teh 1.6 Carby motor.
other than teh usual computer, fuel pump and crap like that. what i want to know is will the 3sgte even fit in on the engien mounts, what gearbox is the easiest and cheapest to use, do i have to custom make drive shafts or cv's??
will the sump fit in the right place through the rack and crossmember?

[sw20r]

click on the link to the old forums "mikey" had an ae82 twin cam with a 3SGTE in there

[tai_180sx]

thanks, i'll check it out.

[ZZE92]

will the 3sgte even fit in on the engien mounts
Not likely that it's going to fit onto the 4ac mounts if that's what you're talking about - from memory the abovementioned car required a bit of cutting/welding to position the 3S mounts..
what gearbox is the easiest and cheapest to use
MR2 turbo box is pretty strong and IMO would be the pick of the bunch.. Shifter cables are on the wrong side of the box for fwd but this can be modified. Not that cheap though I don't think?

Some people have used V6 Camry boxes for fwd 3S applications but I'm not sure how well this will fit in an ae82 (or what driveshafts you'd need..)

ST185 box will fit, but requires a bit of modification as it was originally 4wd.. (i probably wouldn't recommend this option)

ST184 box will probably be the cheapest/easiest option, but not as strong as any of the above.

[4agte]

it will fit but its a tight squeeze only a few mm clearance from the strut tower and i believe a custom dump pipe needs to be made which can be quite tricky a friend used the 4 cylinder camry gearbox i think with billet driveshafts

edit: you will need custom mounts

[terryo]

I have seen this conversion and it was not "nice". Special mounts are needed, the exhaust was a nightmare jammed up against the front panels. The dearest part are the custom axles required. The V6 camry box is the only one to use. the celica/camry 4 cyl wont hack it, & the MR2 turbo has the shift cables on the wrong side .

[4agte]

celica/camry 4 cyl wont hack it
my mate never had any trouble with his but the v6 one is preferrable there is sfa room in the engine bay and he allways had problems with heat even with vents in the bonnet

[tai_180sx]

i don't think i'll bother. i know it can be done but i have a spare 3sgte motor and accessories and had a AE82 corolla for $200 so i thought about. but it was just goin to be a weekend job, probably get sick of doin it after a couple weeks...lol

whats the best and cheapest car that i can bolt this motor into?
i'd assume it would have to be FWD. i'm thinking if i can pickup a car for under a grand i can put this motor in it and have a pretty nice sleeper and then just flog it off after i've had some fun.

[4agte]

a st164 celica would probably be the easiest cosidering they come with a 3sge in the first place

[Jorrs]

u mean st162 :P ?

[Jorrs]

yeh tai chuck it into a celica like mine 162,

[4agte]

u mean st162 :P ?
yup ;) (character limit)

[AndyTTR]

. the celica/camry 4 cyl wont hack it, & the MR2 turbo has the shift cables on the wrong side .

Most of the Celica 3SGTE conversions getting around run a camry box, even worked examples aren't blowing gearboxes as much as you would expect.

If I were you I'd drop it in a old camry - cheap as p00 (you wouldn't need another gearbox :p) and nobody would ever expect it. Nobody ever suspects the Camry...

[piggy]

theres a camary turbo getting around here in newcastle

first time i saw it i went wtf camary turbo never seen thst before :eek:

[granny_spec_rolla]

an sv21 camry would be the cheapest option probably.

[Pugho]

I've got a generation 2 3S-GE in my AE82.. I guess the GTE will fit as well, although I think it will be a tight fit and the cooler will probably need to be moved. Two of the four engine mounts need to be modified.
The engine bay of the AE82 is as wide as the one of the ST162, but it is shorter.
The intake manifold just clears the firewall and there is not many mm's of air between the exhaust header and the cooler. Also, the upper coolant hose exits the cooler straight into the header, so I will probably use a ST162 cooler instead of the AE82 one.

You can check out the pics from my conversion (it is not ready yet) at http://pugho.no-ip.com/gallery/stuff/Keffo/

[Dimmy]

i've seen a few of these conversions, and probably wouldn't recommend doing one unless you're good at custom/fabrication work because to get the engine into the engine bay is an effort in itself. There's about 5mm room between the chassis and the engine :P

They do make fairly good power stock, but then again the 4age/t/z are much easier to install and have the potential to make huge power :D

[camrygt?]

theres a camary turbo getting around here in newcastle

first time i saw it i went wtf camary turbo never seen thst before :eek:

If it was blue it was mine

easy/cheap conversion and heaps of fun

[Lenno]

If it was blue it was mine

easy/cheap conversion and heaps of fun


If it was white it was mine :D :D
good value

cyas

mark

[millsi]

why not use a supra gbox?

[AndyTTR]

um... are you serious or just s#5tstirring?

[millsi]

hang on a sec. im really not down with all this ae82, jza70, etc stuff. i have no idea what year it is what but now im asuming that the ae82 isnt rwd lol!!
is there a topic on here which has the years to models details
ie ta22, 72-74 celica or whatever??

[Jt_70R]

cause the 3sge is a FWD setup engine!

[millsi]

yes i know.
my hilux has it setup as a rwd motor, and is using a supra gbox!
thats why i jumped to the concusion lol!

[GBC_069]

i ll take the spare 3s-gte off ya if you wanna sell it !!!! send us a PM if interested.