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ed_jza80
26-09-2005, 01:48 AM
Just thought i'd start a thread containing a list of all the weird bits that are interchangable between engines/cars...

example:

TOI #1: the bellhousing bolt pattern of a 1G and T series engine are the same, so you can use a 1G bellhousing to mate a W58 to your 3T

TOI #2: 1nzfe 31mm shimless buckets fit the 2jzg(t)e

TOI #3: JZ engine starter motors are interchangable with M engines (and work better)

TOI #4: 7MGTE cam angle sensor fits the 2JZGE (with v.minor modification)

etc etc

Cheers
Ed

bbaacchhyy
26-09-2005, 08:00 AM
From Ed himself ;

MS65 hubs fit the MA61 struts to give 5 stud conversion for the fronts

MS123 stubs fit the MA61 trailing arms to give 5 stud conversion

RA60/65 Fuse box cover is the same as MA61

Don't thos buckets frit a 7M-G(T)E as well (or a variant of them ?)


Cheers

Michael B

Toobs
26-09-2005, 09:05 AM
1ZZFE (MR2 Spider) Shimless buckets fit the 3SGTE (Confirmed)
4AG 16V Camshafts (Edit: Do NOT!) fit in the 3SGTE (Disproved!)

Lambolica
26-09-2005, 10:13 AM
90% sure of this statment will have full confirmation soon.

the hinges from the liftback of an RA28 are the same (or very similar to)
RA40, AE86

This leads to the possibility of other RA's having them, and other Corollas having them.
A trip to the wreckers will confirm this and what other models are similar.

rob
26-09-2005, 10:29 AM
MS65 hubs will go onto XT130 RT132 RA40 RA28 RA23 stub axles

MS65 hubs will also go onto MX10/13 MX22/23 Mk II corona

7M-GE alternator will bolt onot 1G-GE without the need to change pulley, if done vise versa pulley must be swapped.

LN106 (1989-1993) Hilux 4 piston calipers will bolt onto the same caliper mount as the sumitomo twin piston calipers found on the RT132 and MX13/23 Mk II corona (90mm bolt spacing)

EDIT: ive also read but cant confirm that the Y series bellhousing is the same/similar to the S series bellh

Lambolica
26-09-2005, 10:32 AM
Rob,
If that is the case with 7M-GE --> 1G-GE
Is the same true for 7M-GTE --> 1G-GTE?

rob
26-09-2005, 10:36 AM
i can only 100% confrim the GE's but i would say there is a very high chance it applies to the GTE's as well.

Lambolica
26-09-2005, 10:44 AM
I will confirm this most problem solving piece of information either way.

CrUZida
26-09-2005, 10:55 AM
Comparison of 7MGTE, 1UZFE and 5MGE alternators.
http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/alternator/
(note all the plugs are the same)

Rob, I've 99.9% sure S and Y bellhousing patterns are the same, but Y has the gearbox rotated a few degrees. Wait for one of the RWD 3SGTE boys to chime in.

Norbie
26-09-2005, 12:46 PM
Y bellhousings are almost the same as the S series. One of the bolt holes is out by a few mm, but of course this is easily taken care of. Note this is first-hand information.

Another oddity, courtesy of Wilbo: the high-pressure power steering hose from an RA65 Celica is a direct fit for an MA61 with a JZ series engine. I wish I'd known this when I was hooking up my P/S. :mad:

SeptemberSquall
26-09-2005, 12:46 PM
Late model 2T-G blocks are the same casting as 3T blocks, just stamped with an engine number (2T#### or 3T####) to correspond with the internals (1588CC or 1770CC).

Late block is p/n 11411-28010 (possibly others also).
Early block is p/n 11411-26012 (possibly others also).

Date of change to the later casting would roughly correspond with the start of 3T motor production, approx 1980 I suspect. Accordingly 2T-G built after this date would use later casting.

In my experience,
11111-88222 head (and earlier) = 11411-26012 block;
11111-88260 head (and later) = 11411-28010 block.

IIRC 88260 head came in carb (2T-GU, 2T-GR) or EFI (2T-GEU) versions, from 88261 onwards 2T-G were EFI only (ie. 2T-GEU).

TooF
27-09-2005, 09:28 PM
ae92 front hubs are the same as aw11 rear hubs.
at165/early st185 brakes fit directly up to aw11 front and work a treat.
noltec's bush for the inner tie rod end DOES NOT FIT.

SeptemberSquall
28-09-2005, 01:17 AM
Whiteline catalogue has previously listed AE86 Corolla adjustable panhard rod for TA22. This doesn't fit. AE86 is listed as either ####10 or ####11; you need whichever one of the above isn't listed for AE86. Make sense?

gianttomato
28-09-2005, 01:23 PM
Hiace RH40 stub axles bolt up to Crown R/MS40 wishbones.
Hiace RH40 upper and lower ball joints bolt straight into MS40 wishbones.

"Who cares?" you ask? Good for converting drum brakes to disc brakes on these old clumpers.

wagonist
28-09-2005, 07:25 PM
ae92 front hubs are the same as aw11 rear hubs.
at165/early st185 brakes fit directly up to aw11 front and work a treat.
noltec's bush for the inner tie rod end DOES NOT FIT.

Which'll mean the ST205 ones should fit with a few mods.
Any idea whether the brake rotors have the same offset (I know the stud patterns are different)?

Lambolica
30-09-2005, 12:09 PM
If anyone can chime in with 1G-GTE main/rod bearings are the same as ............
Now would be a good time to..... :(

tricky
03-10-2005, 02:22 PM
Not really an oddity, but an interchanging myth. One thing I have been told is TA22 and RA23 bonnet hinges are NOT interchangable. I would like to disperse this myth.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/toolbox11/Celica/DSC00824.jpg

Looks a little bit funny due to the angle , but I assure you they are identical.

TooF
03-10-2005, 11:01 PM
Which'll mean the ST205 ones should fit with a few mods.
Any idea whether the brake rotors have the same offset (I know the stud patterns are different)?


the st185 (single piston) rotors have a 1mm difference in rotor offset. centre hub is the same 54mm though.

im not sure about the twins as ive never had any of the original rotors for them however they fit and work perfectly on the aw11 stockers.

wagonist
04-10-2005, 08:51 AM
the st185 (single piston) rotors have a 1mm difference in rotor offset. centre hub is the same 54mm though.

im not sure about the twins as ive never had any of the original rotors for them however they fit and work perfectly on the aw11 stockers.

Are you saying the Celica rotors have a 1mm difference in offset to the AW11 rotors?
Twin spot Celica & single spots are the same.

ST20x Celicas have a 55mm centre hub

Joshstix
04-10-2005, 10:01 AM
ST165/185 outer CV's fit straight onto SW20 axles and the outers then fit into AW11 hubs.

SW20 turbo rear calipers, with the 22V markings, bolt up to AW11 rear hubs and give the ability to run a 22mm wide rotor and use the standard hand brake etc.

CrAiGzEE
04-10-2005, 12:12 PM
4age valve stem seals are the same as 1g

for power steering in a ra23 use a mx62 item (almost bolt up)

ed_jza80
05-10-2005, 05:14 PM
attention!!
who just gave me reputation fro this post? can you send me a PM please? :)

cheers
ed

Joshstix
05-10-2005, 07:49 PM
It wasn't just then but I have given you rep for this thread.

It's handy making a post that catchs the attention of an admin as being a good thread. Admin votes are rather substantial.

EVOSTi
05-10-2005, 10:04 PM
yep this thread was a top idea. good to see people making contributions who have first hand experience rather than 'heard it from some guy so it must be true' stories. ;)

Steve-AE86
06-10-2005, 10:13 AM
16v 4age bucket/shims are interchangeable with 2nz-fe(echo) buckets, therefore allowing higher revability in the 4age, by not flicking out shims with big cams, etc..

i'm dying to do this...i wish someone would give me a 4age to do it to :p

CrUZida
06-10-2005, 10:17 AM
2nz-fe buckets fit a lot more motors than just the 4age.
They are also shimless buckets.

ed_jza80
06-10-2005, 10:35 AM
are they shimless, or shim-under?

i know the 1nzfe are shimless

CrUZida
06-10-2005, 10:47 AM
Hmm, good point.
One would assume that if they used shimless on 1nz-fe, then it would be shimless on 2nz-fe.
But I can not confirm that.

Steve-AE86
06-10-2005, 10:56 AM
they're the same...shimless.

BradW
06-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Everyone probably knows this already but for any one who doesn't, here goes.

When fitting a 4AGE into a KE3x/5x corolla the sprinter T50 gearbox rubber mount bolts straight onto the KE gearbox crossmember. This then bolts to the rearward gearbox crossmember bolt holes on the chassis of the KE. I don't know if this is the same for KE1x/2x corolla's though.
Custom engine mounts then need to be made to suit.

Hope this is useful to some one considering this conversion.

Mr DOHC
06-10-2005, 07:40 PM
RN47 calipers are direct bolt on fit to RT104 coronas

Norbie
06-10-2005, 08:10 PM
Speaking of Coronas, for a decent front brake upgrade on an RT142/ST141 you can use RA6x Celica hubs, rotors and calipers. It bolts on with no mods and it's a substantial improvement over the solid-disc stockers.

CrUZida
06-10-2005, 11:58 PM
How is the bias after that?
Wilbo did that to his MX62, and the bias was f*cked.
He had to use an SA63 bias valve to get it back to something reasonable.

Norbie
07-10-2005, 09:11 AM
Can't tell you what it was like, the guy who did it sold the car before the project was finished.

takai
07-10-2005, 09:26 AM
16v 4age bucket/shims are interchangeable with 2nz-fe(echo) buckets, therefore allowing higher revability in the 4age, by not flicking out shims with big cams, etc..

i'm dying to do this...i wish someone would give me a 4age to do it to :p


1SZ, 2NZ and 1NZ are all the same shimless bucket setup. And when i start building my new engine i promise you can have a play with the shimless buckets Steve
For other odd stuff:
* SW20 MR2 pads fit AE101 Superstrut twinpot calipers
* All T13/4 hubs are interchangable (as you would expect).
* Early 3SGTE CV joints (ST185?) are the same as AE92 GTZ E58 joints.
* Not only are 4AGE valve stem seals the same as 1G but also 3S

Thats all i can think of for now.

wilbo666
07-10-2005, 11:33 AM
SA63, RA60, RA65, MA61 Struts fit MX62 Cressidas :P Brake bias is all wrong :p (can be fixed with SA63 Bias valve). Camber is close to factory with SA63 struts.

MX62 Power window motors fit 96ish model Camrys! I suspect that most Toyota's use the same power window motor since the dawn of time?

ST14x / RT142 / xA6x / MZ1x / clutch pedals are the same, as are master cyls (these will NOT fit a MX62 easily :p).

RA65/SA63 clutch line can be made to fit a number of cars with very minor bending, these include MA61, MZ1x, MX62 (I also suspect ST/RT14x lines would go close to fitting assuming the slave cyl is mounted on the passenger side).

Cheers
Wilbo

takai
07-10-2005, 01:19 PM
Oh yeah, almost forgot.
MA61 Clutch pedals fit MX83s. Infact with all the similarities i woudlnt be suprised that the MA61 and MX83 are actually the same chassis.

MA70 Clutch pedals fit MZ20s

Norbie
07-10-2005, 02:22 PM
The MA61 chassis is almost the same as the MX73 chassis; the MX83 is quite different. Are you sure you're not talking about the MX73 here? I'd be kinda surprised if MA61 pedals fit in an MX83.

wilbo666
07-10-2005, 02:46 PM
The MA61 chassis is almost the same as the MX73 chassis; the MX83 is quite different. Are you sure you're not talking about the MX73 here? I'd be kinda surprised if MA61 pedals fit in an MX83.

CrUZider reckons that MA61 clutch pedals don't fit MX73. He was using a GX61 (i.e. MX62 ish) clutch pedal which if I recall fitted perfectly?

Ah the wonderful world of Toyotas.... my mind boggles :)

Cheers
Wilbo

CrUZida
07-10-2005, 02:55 PM
They don't fit.
Yes, they bolt on, but they don't fit properly.

takai
07-10-2005, 03:24 PM
Ah, because i just lined mine up, never tried fitting it. There you go.

CrUZida
07-10-2005, 03:37 PM
Here are GX61 vs MA61 clutch pedals.

They both fit in probably ANY 80's Toyota, but only the GX61 fits to the MX73 dash, and lines up correctly with the other pedals.

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/pedals

wagonist
07-10-2005, 09:13 PM
ST205 Celica front brake pads & JZA80 Supra 4 spot brake pads are identical.

Can't confirm this, but I imagine the rears are identical too.

oldcorollas
08-10-2005, 02:38 PM
i have a TRD catalog now, so i will go thru and se what brake pads are interchangable... there are more than a few, and also means the calipers are likely to be similar...


KE20 collapsible steering column can be used in KE10 corolla. the cruch tubes in the chasis rail are big enough, just need to drill out the holes int he rail to match the crush tubes, as the KE20 column has larger diameter bolts.
KE10 pitman arm has exactly same spline and bolts on, but KE20 pitman arms is longer and cannot be used.
to make it fit inside, you need to go a bit custom and try and replicate the KE20 mounting methods, so you retaint he collapsible nature of the column...

oldcorollas
08-10-2005, 02:56 PM
ST205 Celica front brake pads & JZA80 Supra 4 spot brake pads are identical.

Can't confirm this, but I imagine the rears are identical too.

ST205 front (TRD Black) = 04491-JA830
JZA80 front (TRD black, 17 inch???) = 04491-JA830

JZA80 front (TRD black, 16 inch???) = 04491-JA820

the JA820 is used for a lot of cars (UCF10/11, JZS171W, JZS171, UZS173, UZS143/5, JZS160/1, JZS147, UZS143, UZZ40, JZX100, JZX90, ALTEZZA with 16" rims,

another brake pad that is used on many cars is 04491-SW210 ;)
SW20, celica ST202/206 wth superstrut, ST202 from 97.12 on, carina ST202superstrut and AT210 98on, Corona ST205 and ST202 with superstrut, caldina ST215G/W/ST210G GT and GT-T grades,

brett_celicacoupe
08-10-2005, 08:13 PM
first post :)


a few things compatible that i can think of off the top of my head are;

-MX62 front 24mm sway bar bolts into RA40/23/28 celicas no problems. that is what i am running in my RA40 atm. i think it is actually ~5mm wider overall but that isnt an issue. the standard sway bar thickness is 19mm for memory and it is a very noticeable improvement. :) the MX62's are usually in plentiful supply at wreckers. i think (yet to confirm, RA60 fr sway bars are the same as MX62 ones)

-RA60 rear sway bar bolts straight into RA40's . the bracket that bolts to the chassis for the sway bar has the holes predrilled in the chassis :confused: (GT maybe?) . then ofcourse the mounts have to be put on the diff but thats nothing.
im not to sure if this is the case for RA23/28's .


- MX62 tacho unit is identical to the RA40 unit. this comes in handy when you put a 6cyl (1G etc. ) in place of the 18R and want a tacho!!

-MX62 power assisted steering box bolts into RA40's with small mods to the steering shaft length


ill think of more.....ahh the world of toyota :cool:

all this info should be put in a table maybe?
-----------------------------------------
struts (item interchangeable)
------------------------------------------
model comments
----------------------------------------
RA23
RA28
RA40
RA60 gives + camber


-----------------------------------------
diff (T series)
------------------------------------------
model width comments
----------------------------------------
RA23 xxxx
RA28 xxxx
RA40 xxxx
RA60 xxxx



...etc

??

wagonist
08-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Going to break the mould here & post up a non-interchangeability (mainly cause this bastard caught me out) & maybe will interest you oldcorollas

The front & rear suspension, bonnet, rad support from the pre 96 & post 96 Coronas & Caldinas are NOT compatible.
The suspension on my 96 update Caldina is from the xT21x model, despite having the xT19x bodyshell

This will probably interest only one person (the person who's hopefully buying my car) ;) :D

Steve-AE86
11-10-2005, 07:59 PM
JDM AE86 Kouki front bar indicators are the same as 85-88 AE82 front indicators. this means you can buy aftermarket standard replacement types for your bodykit front bar on your ADM poo 86 for $25 each, brand new, or $10 from the wreckers ;)

rn-85
14-10-2005, 08:42 PM
this thread is awsome ive soaked up heaps of info but does any one have details on body panels, eg front ends to suit a ra 65? like the supra front or may be somthing comletely different so it's only obvious to other toyota enthusists. but any different body parts wich match other toyotas would be real healpful

wagonist
14-10-2005, 10:05 PM
this thread is awsome ive soaked up heaps of info but does any one have details on body panels, eg front ends to suit a ra 65? like the supra front or may be somthing comletely different so it's only obvious to other toyota enthusists. but any different body parts which match other toyotas would be real helpful

Anything's possible with a good panel beater, but some things have been done.
The MA61/RA65 is not apparently a straight swap due to the longer engine bay of the Supra.
Soarer/Supra swaps have been done.
Obviously Treuno/Sprinter is doable.

I'd be picking things with the same chassis code.

rn-85
15-10-2005, 10:08 AM
ok i'll break the news i'd like to mount a rt142 front end on a sa63 without too much work im not a good panel beater but the panels look almost right and it seem the both cars are built out of simlar parts bins

Norbie
15-10-2005, 11:03 AM
Hmmm a Celona? Or a Corica? Could be interesting!

ed_jza80
15-10-2005, 11:30 AM
on topic please - start a new thread if you wish to discuss specific conversions in detail

Classique71
15-10-2005, 12:31 PM
Toyota Curren ( some sort of coupe in JDM market i believe ) panels can be used to swap front end panels on an St184/185 as well - in the same fashion as silvia to 180 , if you didnt want pop up headlights. Looks different - but yeah ..

St205 rear calipers and rotors are a direct bolt on swap to St185's and possibly st165's - Dust shield needs modifying a little for clearance of larger caliper

Interesting about the JZA80 TRD front pads - I may investigate these for the Gt4.

Differences:

Early ta22 , and later ta22/ra23 coupe rear bumpers are NOT interchangable as a bolt on swap - the mounts are different , you need to either reweld , or redrill on the body to make them fit..

St185 group A AFM - is different to St185 Stock as well - not plug and play

ta22 early13 inch rims will not bolt on to later ra23 and ra40/60 Rear's ( found theis while attempting to move a stripped shell )

wagonist
15-10-2005, 03:01 PM
St205 rear calipers and rotors are a direct bolt on swap to St185's and possibly st165's - Dust shield needs modifying a little for clearance of larger caliper

Interesting about the JZA80 TRD front pads - I may investigate these for the Gt4.


That means the ST205 rear brakes will go onto any 5x100 stud pattern car that already has disc brakes.

Its not just the JZA80 TRD pads, its any JZA80 4 piston front pad.

Classique71
15-10-2005, 03:07 PM
Did you try it on the caldina - or just the fronts ?

And ive yet to see that done on an St184 - so im not 100% sure if they do for the rears of them

St205 front brakes also can be mounted onto Aw11's , basically in the same way as you do it for St185 and caldina

wagonist
15-10-2005, 03:13 PM
Did you try it on the caldina - or just the fronts ?

And ive yet to see that done on an St184 - so im not 100% sure if they do for the rears of them

St205 front brakes also can be mounted onto Aw11's , basically in the same way as you do it for St185 and caldina
I measured it up for the rears, (including sticking my head under the Bates Corollas ;) )but never got a set to try. :(

Negative Boost
16-10-2005, 03:27 PM
Landcruiser (not sure of model) brake master cylinder is almost the same as an MA61 item and bolts up perfectly.

Norbie
16-10-2005, 10:44 PM
Landcruiser (not sure of model) brake master cylinder is almost the same as an MA61 item and bolts up perfectly.
o rly??

What is the bore diameter?

Negative Boost
17-10-2005, 08:29 PM
MA61 bore is 15/16in $300
Landrcuiser is 7/8in $90

Everything else is the same bar the cap on the reservoir which doesn't have an electronic sender on it so you have to use the MA61 cap.

Norbie
18-10-2005, 10:34 AM
Crap, I was hoping it would be 1" bore. :(

Oh well, good info all the same. :)

SeptemberSquall
18-10-2005, 01:55 PM
on topic edit

SeptemberSquall
18-10-2005, 01:58 PM
on topic edit

visions162
18-10-2005, 04:27 PM
89-90 model corona sway bar fits st 141 corona.

AndyTTR
18-10-2005, 07:13 PM
SV21 front and rear engine mounts fit the ST162, but the left and right ones dont despite looking almost identical. ST202 shift lever fits into the ST162 shift mechanism for a cheap short-shifter upgrade.

visions162
18-10-2005, 10:26 PM
1986-2004 celicas all have same stud pattern

wagonist
18-10-2005, 10:33 PM
1986-2004 celicas all have same stud pattern
Along with SV21 onwards Camries (not sure about the current one), FWD/AWD Coronas, Caldinas, Carinas, Currens, Subarus from 1990 onwards (except SVX & current STi)

Classique71
18-10-2005, 10:39 PM
though offsets may vary ..

this is an unchecked theory though i know of different offsets being used on earlier vs later Gt4's

( may only be certain rim styles though )

AndyTTR
18-10-2005, 10:41 PM
Might belong in that other thread, but you can add Audi, Chrysler Neon & PT Cuiser (same offset as the celica) and VW Golf, Passat and Polo to that list of cars with a 5x100 stud pattern.

visions162
18-10-2005, 10:44 PM
:cool: :cool: makes it easier to get mags lol:D

bbaacchhyy
21-10-2005, 03:05 PM
:cool: :cool: makes it easier to get mags lol:D

How many decent mags have you seen for Polo's, Neons, Audi's or PT Cruisers ?

I know what you mean though.

gearb0x
24-11-2005, 10:35 PM
Contrary to popular belief not ALL T-18s had the 20 spline output shaft on the t50 gearbox. the 1983 model had a 22 spline outputshaft with 2 "gear positing switches" for various 3TC emissions stuff

big80
25-11-2005, 09:12 AM
MA/JZA70 4 bolt, 1" bore brake masters bolt onto TA/RA23/28 boosters (std bore 13/16"). Will have to use the above booster in a RA40 if you want the big master cylinder, as the 40 has only a 2 bolt master. Great for the Hilux/Pug brake conversion.

The Hilux caliper used in the above mentioned has the same pad as Nissan 200SX, so performance/race pads are available

All 1G/1J/2J/M motors will bolt to the Hilux G52 4WD gearbox, and the W56 2WD gearbox when using the W series bellhousings.

1G series and MX83 radiators fit between the chassis rails on TA/RA23/28 and RA40 celicas, and are very easy to mount, giving a large radiator for conversions.

All info is 1st hand

Phill

RONA
25-11-2005, 09:27 AM
How many decent mags have you seen for Polo's, Neons, Audi's or PT Cruisers ?

I know what you mean though.
Audi's have some damn fine mags dude, stock mags even let alone aftermarket euro mags (a little on the pricey side).:rolleyes:

Darren
25-11-2005, 09:42 AM
St141 Corona live axle rear disk brakes bolt up to the RA40 diff (I assume the 23/28's are the same)

There is a problem with the axles ending up with about 5mm of end float due to the extra thickness of the caliper mount that sits between the axle retainer plate and the diff housing. The corona's would have the same problem, they have a different part number for the disk brake axle retainer plate which i believe will fix the problem. Just haven't got around to getting a look at one yet.... If not, then a sleeve could be machined up and welded to the inside of the retainer plate to take up the slack between it and the outer ring of the bearing.

Longer studs are needed to retain the axle and the steel brake pipes shortened and reflared too.

Haven't tackled the handbrake yet but don't see why the corona cables can't be used.

Darren.

RONA
25-11-2005, 09:47 AM
Live axle with 4 wheel discs gimme gimme please.

RobertoX
25-11-2005, 10:08 AM
No one has mentioned the T18 rear axle into a sprinter yet. These will bolt directly in giving a t series rear end for an aussie sprinter, hence allowing higher gear ratio and LSD to be fitted. Some models Will need ARB mounts welded to the diff but that is easy :)

Also all sorts of diff centres and axles can be swapped in from different model cars with t series diffs...

takai
25-11-2005, 10:18 AM
ARB mounts? Im sure you mean swaybar mounts, in which case you just neatly cut them off your old S-series.

Darren
25-11-2005, 10:24 AM
No one has mentioned the T18 rear axle into a sprinter yet. These will bolt directly in giving a t series rear end for an aussie sprinter, hence allowing higher gear ratio and LSD to be fitted. Some models Will need ARB mounts welded to the diff but that is easy :)

Also all sorts of diff centres and axles can be swapped in from different model cars with t series diffs...

The corona disks may even bolt up to them too... there goes the market for disk brake sprinter diffs.

Darren.

RobertoX
25-11-2005, 01:32 PM
Nah I meant ARB cos thats what it is ;) :P
No Idea about the corona discs though

takai
25-11-2005, 01:50 PM
ARB also is a large manufacturer of aftermarket parts for 4WDs, they do make lots of diff stuff, hence the confusion.

Corona discs almost bolt up, you have to do some dicking around with filing bits out though.

RobertoX
25-11-2005, 02:04 PM
Ok sorry about that :P

Do the calipers bolt on or is a new caliper mount required?
What sort of things need to be 'dicked' around with?

Gleno28
25-11-2005, 02:45 PM
Not really an oddity, but an interchanging myth. One thing I have been told is TA22 and RA23 bonnet hinges are NOT interchangable. I would like to disperse this myth.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/toolbox11/Celica/DSC00824.jpg

Looks a little bit funny due to the angle , but I assure you they are identical.

Almost the same... on the ones i have, the hinge part is the same but where it bolts to the body, RA28/23 ones have a slightly different bolt pattern, inside holes are wider spaced

Gleno28
25-11-2005, 03:47 PM
Also...

TA22 AUTO tailshaft matches RA28/23 in length and spline (W5x boxes)
(TA22 manual spline is too small)
- watch out however for the rubber joiner on some of these "one piece" shafts

Glen

o_man_ra23
25-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Not totally confirmed yet, but it looks right from the underside... RT142 avante fuel tank in the RA60 celica... great for that 22RE conversion, as the 142 tank already has an in tank pump :D. Ill re-post when i can confirm or deny this (a couple of weeks time)

Cheers, Owen:eek:

c2888
27-11-2005, 10:12 AM
Door hinges for all the AE86 boys with saggy doors.
look for sv11 camry and al25?? tercel(the first 4wd corolla thing)

ls400 has the same tank gsket as a ae86!

KE70 strut tops = AE86 GT ones give you a few degrees more castor

I'll find a shed load more when i get my epc going again, cross referencing rocks

dan

CrUZida
27-11-2005, 12:52 PM
Not totally confirmed yet, but it looks right from the underside... RT142 avante fuel tank in the RA60 celica... great for that 22RE conversion, as the 142 tank already has an in tank pump :D. Ill re-post when i can confirm or deny this (a couple of weeks time)
RA65 and MA61 tanks will definately bolt in 100% too.
EFI, and intank pump.

MZ10 tanks are the same but use external pumps.

Andrew162
27-11-2005, 06:25 PM
A few odd-bits when comparing 4WD Toyota stuff...

RAV's and GT-Four's share the same drivetrain setup, only front/rear drive bias is reversed.
Dropping in a 3S-GTE into a 3S-FE's engine bay will be a tad tight, but it will work. No mods necessary, mounts are the same.
Front driveshafts for GT-Four's are ¼" longer than the RAV's, but you can get a spacer to fix this. Rear driveshafts are identical. All use the same # of splines.

Also, fuel pumps can be interchanged as well. The RAV has a 120L/hour (from memory) fuel pump in-tank, whereas the GT-Four has a slightly larger length 255L/hour Walbro pump in-tank, and can fit into the same space minus the rubber spacer. Makes quite a substantial difference when turbo'ing a RAV. :)

nb86
28-11-2005, 05:09 PM
nissan sumitomto 4spot calipers bolt to jzx and mx81 struts (and others im sure), not a toyota swap but still interesting and helpful.

Andrew162
28-11-2005, 05:45 PM
Another "interchangeable" thing I thought of...

How many engines is the Toyota PK20R8 spark plug used in? I know it's used in some 3S-GTE's. :D

wagonist
28-11-2005, 07:39 PM
nissan sumitomto 4spot calipers bolt to jzx and mx81 struts (and others im sure), not a toyota swap but still interesting and helpful.
There's a different thread for non toyota parts on toyotas.

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
28-11-2005, 07:56 PM
Oddities with Celicas (ST16X to ST20X)

-All engines and driveline pacakges are interchangeable.
-MR2 clutches (aftermarket) can be used in the GTFour
-JZA80 (USDM) injectors are a straight fit i nto gen2 rail
-Maxda RX7 series4/5 AFM are 'interchangeable' with the Gen2 3sgte (varied reports)
-ST204 rear shocks fit the ST185
-ST184 dash works in the ST185 (you lose the useless boostgauge, and gain a volt meter)
-Gen1 intake manifold is a direct bolt on to the gen2 block, along with 95% of all the ancilaries. (giving you side feed intake)
-Gen2 3S-GE cams are a straight fit into the 3sgte head, which gives the advantage of a 'step 0' cam upgrade.
-1ffze shimless buckets are a straight fit into the gen2 3sgte
-st185 springs fit the st165
-gen7 celica seats are a straight bolt into the gen5 (with very minor mods)

And more when i can think of them.

BTW: who said the 4age cams fit the 3sgte head? more info please!!!

1JZ-Rolla
29-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Late model Camry 2 bolt brake master cylinder (p/n 47201-06190) bolts directly to TA22/AE86/TE72/AE71 booster for those running bigger brakes & needing to get rid of the spongy pedal :) ST205 celica fits also, but lines are slightly different.

and the strangest one i've come across:

1998 IS200 Altezza has independent rear suspension and a type 2 Torsen LSD.... thats not so wierd....... but it fits DIRECTLY into a live axle F series centre with no mods!!! Even the slightly wider carrier bearings can be used ;)

takai
29-11-2005, 10:09 PM
What bore is that Camry MC?

1JZ-Rolla
29-11-2005, 10:13 PM
now you got me! I can't remember if it was 1" or 15/16"

Either way, works beautifully compared to my old setup, and F/R brake bias is still correct.

takai
30-11-2005, 10:52 PM
Ok, cool, ill keep that one on the books. Ive gone to the 17/16th Nissan Patrol master, and ill give a bit of a review in another thread when ive driven with it in.

o_man_ra23
02-12-2005, 03:17 PM
Heres one for the RA23/28 lovers... KE55 corolla steering column shroud fits perfectly on the celica column. They arent exactly the same, so you cant mix the top and bottom of celica and corolla items, but nobody would ever tell the difference if you had a complete rolla setup on your celica (nobody has noticed on mine in the last 2 1/2 years). Also, the indicator etc multiswitch from the rolla fits perfectly (again, ive had one for 2 1/2 years) and the RA40 one fits too if you want to run an intermittent wiper setup... with the rest of the wiring of course. Oh, yeah, TA22-RA40 wiper motors are all interchangeable, I havent checked whether or not the early motors will run intermittently when put with the rest of the setup, but they fit in the hole. I think they may be interchangeable with KE30-55 rolla ones too, but havent checked.

Cheers, Owen

AE25
03-12-2005, 12:47 PM
found a jdm 3sfe st204 (base model)? celica has a two bolt alloy 15/16 brake master and bolts up in ke70/te71/te72 etc and probably all rwd corollas fwiw.. has level sensor and a neat snout on the filler so no more fluid sloshing out on those sideways excursions! brake line outlets a bit different so some mods to those required.

4wd ae10# and most 4wd celica carib rav4 etc have T series rear irs diff with 2.8:1 ratio. be interesing to see if those tall gears are small enough to fit a te7/ae86 corolla live axle?

anyone *completed* the altezza torsen a01b into live axle F series? ive so far sat it in the housing and bearings etc fit nice but the lsd carrier seems to *just* contact the pinion gear so might need 1mm removed off the pinion gear in my case. (tho the pinion was original F series one)

10" disk upgrade on ae86/ jdm te71 T diff. have seen a few jdm ma45 celica/supra mk1 with T series disk brake (non vented) diff with 10" brakes.. ma45 diff is wider but bolt pattern on end of T housing same.. calipers are same style as jdm te71 but different caliper bolt spacing... so will be possible to use ma45 caliper mount, caliper and disks on other T series disk brake diffs for 1" bigger disks.

E7 chassis and ae85/ae86 have identical shaped engine crossmembers with or without rack mounts. so say you want a 3tgt in a ke70 with rack.. use ke70/ae8# rack crossmember and carefully cut mounts off a te7# xmember and weld on the rack one for bolt up and factory mounting positions. (ive done it)

C and S bellhousings have same bolt pattern. bell front face needs to be milled to correct input shaft/ spigot allignment and space starter out in depending which starter used. (known someone do it)

G and W boxs have same bolt pattern to the bellhouse.. so liteace/townace/hiace etc vans with G52/G55 (side shifter) etc have bellhousings for supra box. 5k liteace has supra box bellhousing ha ha

1G reduction gear starter motors fit T engines. have tested it on 3tgte.. may have clearance issues on custom manifs etc

kp61 starlet k50 are bolt into ke3/ke2 corolla's because shifter is midway on tail housing, ke70 k50 shifter is at end of tail housing and tunnel cutting required and different mount.
kp61 tail housings can be swapped onto ke70/ae70/ae85 k50 box's

1JZ-Rolla
03-12-2005, 03:25 PM
anyone *completed* the altezza torsen a01b into live axle F series? ive so far sat it in the housing and bearings etc fit nice but the lsd carrier seems to *just* contact the pinion gear so might need 1mm removed off the pinion gear in my case. (tho the pinion was original F series one)

um, Yes, see my post above, its what i'm driving with at the moment.... :) And the original live F series pinion clears my carrier just fine.

takai
12-12-2005, 10:20 PM
Oh yeah, jogged my memory somewhat.

4A FWD reduction starters fit T50s fine.

AE95 axles are the same as kouki AE86 T-series, but are 4x100, which makes them near useless.

AE25
12-12-2005, 10:30 PM
they'd be irs axles tho wouldnt they? but with larger T series splines.. live axles can usually be redrilled

CrUZida
12-12-2005, 10:32 PM
AFAIK the Ae95 shares the same ass end as the AE86.

All the bushes are interchangeable according to SuperPro

timmah
12-12-2005, 10:33 PM
this is the tech section - keep on topic

takai
12-12-2005, 10:35 PM
AE95 is a live axle T-series rear end, just with the larger axles (Kouki, late model, more splines, thicker etc)
The problem is that the axles already have two big holes in them to facilitate access to the mounting bolts on the axle ends, tends to make it hard to redrill.

Smokey228
13-12-2005, 10:45 AM
Also...

TA22 AUTO tailshaft matches RA28/23 in length and spline (W5x boxes)
(TA22 manual spline is too small)
- watch out however for the rubber joiner on some of these "one piece" shafts

Glen

in doing this swap, will it give u a better final drive? (i think its final drive, i mean top speed :p)

Toobs
13-12-2005, 07:51 PM
BTW: who said the 4age cams fit the 3sgte head? more info please!!!

I was told that 4AGE 16V cams fit into a 3SGTE head by a reasonably reputable aftermarket cam grinder.
If someone wants to come around with a 4AG cam I can quickly sit it in my disassembled Gen2 head and see if it fits.
Either that or someone can take one of my Gen2 cams and whack it in their 4AG head for testing if they want.
/me looks towards Domasik!

Edit: Now disproved.

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
13-12-2005, 07:55 PM
this is the tech section - keep on topic

rokusan
13-12-2005, 09:13 PM
:rolleyes: well theres all the usual stuff like 3sge block fits gte crank and head, 2s engine mounts boltup to ge block, 2j injectors fit gen 1 and two with 7m plugs (cheers soarer21) 165 crank takes f engine rearmain seal, ge rods same as gte, 141 corona flywheel fits 3y starter, 2s pulley fits 3sgte's, 2s p/s fits 3s block, ma61 fuel tank fits sa63, 2s sump almost bolts to 3s, exact fit requires 2s rearmain seal housing with the two extra bolt holes, 2y bellhousing and 2s oil pickup fit 3s's with help of diegrinder, lots of nissan-bitza-missin parts fit, as do various ford and gm items.
Oh yea and 3sgte gen 1/2 turbo manifold fits a 5sfe! ..except one bolt hole but who's counting..:o

Big T
13-12-2005, 10:24 PM
I was told that 4AGE 16V cams fit into a 3SGTE head by a reasonably reputable aftermarket cam grinder.
If someone wants to come around with a 4AG cam I can quickly sit it in my disassembled Gen2 head and see if it fits.
Either that or someone can take one of my Gen2 cams and whack it in their 4AG head for testing if they want.
/me looks towards Domasik!

Toobs, I'll drop off a smallport cam tomorrow morning. :) If no-one's home i'll just put it in the mailbox or something.

Eddie.

Jonny Rochester
14-12-2005, 05:18 AM
All Corollas from KE30 to AE112 have the same brake and clutch pedal rubbers, also the same as many Diahatsu's, ZZT321 Celica, and ZZW30 MR2.

ZZE122 plastic window winders are the same as AE86 (and most models inbetween) but different colours.

AE86 interia light, same as late model duel cab HiLux, RZN165, RZN149...

KE30,KE55,RA23,RA28 lower control arms all the same, same length.

assassin10000
14-12-2005, 05:23 AM
A few odd-bits when comparing 4WD Toyota stuff...


Adding my 2 cents...

Limited Edition 4-Runner's come with larger front brake discs and different calipers - 11" rotors.

These same calipers and rotors bolt right onto any Tacoma/Hilux 4x4 (factory caliper mounts) as an easy brake upgrade (but do require 16" rims to clear)

Andrew

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
14-12-2005, 07:43 AM
M series engines fit into a 22R(E) engined car using 6M mounts and engine mounts. Using 7MGE bellhousing.

W series gearbox and G series are interchangeable.


EDIT: My apologise, big typo on my part. Was thinking of something totally different.

CrUZida
14-12-2005, 10:06 AM
Edited due to above edit.

ed_jza80
14-12-2005, 10:17 AM
edited because ^^^^ he edited and the other guy too ;)

Garth AE86
14-12-2005, 11:19 AM
16v 4age bucket/shims are interchangeable with 2nz-fe(echo) buckets, therefore allowing higher revability in the 4age, by not flicking out shims with big cams, etc..

i'm dying to do this...i wish someone would give me a 4age to do it to :p

the ae92 heads are shim under anyhow are they not?
only the original bigport engine has the shim over style buckets.

ive been told the valvetrain kit from toda is just toyota kit with toda springs.

dont know of the accuracy of this though.

Big T
14-12-2005, 11:57 AM
the ae92 heads are shim under anyhow are they not?
only the original bigport engine has the shim over style buckets.

ive been told the valvetrain kit from toda is just toyota kit with toda springs.

dont know of the accuracy of this though.

Nah dude, the smallports are also over-bucket shims. I used a set of smallport shims on my bigport head when i was short a couple.

Eddie.

Garth AE86
14-12-2005, 01:48 PM
good to know! thanks!

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
14-12-2005, 04:05 PM
Elaborate on this?
M mounts will not bolt to a JZ, and nor will an M bellhousing.
wtf??!! - clarification or deletion, those are the options

Sorry guys, typo, was thinking something else entirely.

The rest is true though (using M series engine) as seems to be a popular mod when dropping M series engines into hilux's and the like.

Toobs
14-12-2005, 07:33 PM
Toobs, I'll drop off a smallport cam tomorrow morning. :) If no-one's home i'll just put it in the mailbox or something.

Eddie.

Thanks BigT... I checked and the 4AG cam is about an inch shorter along and the spacing of the lobes is all wrong.
Basically the cams are completely different.
Myth Busted!

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
14-12-2005, 07:36 PM
Thanks BigT... I checked and the 4AG cam is about an inch shorter along and the spacing of the lobes is all wrong.
Basically the cams are completely different.
Myth Busted!


Well, that was a bit of an anti climax. *goes back to shopping in the states*

Classique71
14-12-2005, 08:53 PM
this is the tech section - keep on topic

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
14-12-2005, 08:56 PM
this is the tech section - keep on topic

Classique71
14-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Oh and to add to the info thread - St205 rear brake assembly including- i mean everthing , from the mounting arms up, handbrake cables - bolt straight onto a 185 with no modifications .. thios means you can retain the dust shields on the full size rotor - and not have to cut , remove or bend it

Advice though would be check rim spacing first if your using less than a 17 inch rim - as some styles of 16's will just touch by the slimmest of margains on the caliper ( due to rim design , not actual toyota components )

Classique71
14-12-2005, 08:57 PM
this is the tech section - keep on topic

truenosedan
15-12-2005, 10:46 AM
I have a few...nothing amazing tho...

mx83 dash mats "fit" gx81 with an extra vent hole made
7mgte injectors (440cc) are a 4age direct upgrade
ae86/te72/ke70 etc seat rails all fit, some sit on slightly diff angles
ke70/ae86 rack - not indential internals but damn near close enough
ae86/te72/ke70 - trailing arms all identical
xt130 corona lower control arms - driect fit into ae86/te72/ke70 - gives upto 1.7 deg neg camber


to the person who said ke70 tops fit ae86 for more castor, i have seen the better strut inclination they give..but i have never tried myself, but one thing to not is ae86 shock pistion dia - 22mm - gheyE70 - 20mm......

ae86 strut braces do NOT directly fit t18...

Camry SV2X rack ends directly fit ae86

ta22 crown wheel and pinions are generally 4.1..6.7 inch centre to fit t series rear end...

Rumour (from wrecker) he has seen 2 4.3 ta22 centres in 25 years...he said they were both auto!

ae82 radiator into overheating ke70! hahaha cable ties...but fits flush with the top, and out lets line up....


thats it for now...

MR 1JZ
15-12-2005, 11:04 AM
one handy for those wanting to change thier valve stem seals on the smokey 1JZs...

4AFC Valve stem seals are comepletely identical but run different part numbers...they fit perfectly and are Half the price :D

ed_jza80
15-12-2005, 11:04 AM
lance, classic - this is not the 'chit chat' section if i recall correctly

andurils_sheath
15-12-2005, 07:22 PM
Something i found out recently, for all you TA22/RA23 owners, you can flog off that bloody annoying monster accelerator pedal in favour of an RA40 item. The RA40 item; doesnt hinge off the floor nor is it as big as tasmania itself.

But of bending required to get it to the correct shape but it can be done.

o_man_ra23
15-12-2005, 08:26 PM
Why not just use an RA60 item which allows for cable throttle, get rid of the worn throttle links. This would apply to RA40 too. in my personaly opinion tho, the big ass tasmania sized pedal of the XA2X celicas (which is identical to KE3X-KE5X corollas) gives that touch of classic look, and i wouldnt trade it in for anything.

Cheers, Owen

SeptemberSquall
15-12-2005, 08:33 PM
I
Rumour (from wrecker) he has seen 2 4.3 ta22 centres in 25 years...he said they were both auto!


Think I posted this on the old forums.

TA23 coupe (1976-77) had manual and auto option. Auto option had optional 4.3 ratio or else was supplied standard with 4.1 - to get the 4.3 you had to pick the 1600 TA23 over 2L RA23, then pick the auto, then somehow decide after having picked the most soft-cock Celica in the range that straight-line performance was just important enough to select the optional "short" ratio in place of the standard one. Little wonder there are few out there.

bathurst-91
16-12-2005, 08:52 AM
Cant believe noone has been captain obvious yet, bar one post.
heres some for the ae86;

-t18 rear end bolts directly in, they come with either 3.9 or 3.7 (edited and adjusted according to treunosedan) ratios which are both HIGHER than a stock sprinters 4.3 the only difference are some dont have SWAYBAR mounts (but sprinter ones can be cut off and welded on). The other difference is the length in handbrake cables, they have the exact same OVERALL length but the difference lies from the centre mount to the handbrake and the T18 one is slightly longer. You can use it in a sprinter but you need to chuck in some dummy nuts under the two tightening nuts on the handbrake. The other difference is the tailshalf, you must use the rear half of the t18 to use the tseries rearend on a sprinter (4a t50)

-ra40/ra60 struts bolt directly onto an ae86 but ra60 struts will give around 1.0degree of positive camber. Various other combos also work to give different effects. The other obvious one using ra40 tie rods with sigma control arms gives around 3.0 degrees of negative camber.

-sv21 camry rearview mirrors (which are wider and slightly higher than sprinter ones) screw straight into the pattern on the sprinter.

-ae82 bumper blinkers fit the ae86 kouki levin (import) front bar.

EDIT::::: certain other suggestions removed as requested (takai)

EDIT:::::::: Sorry guys Guess I woke up too early to post this one! and Ive been a total zombie the past week. An 18hr drive from melbourne, 3hrs sleep then back to work driving for 11hours. Funny how the mind can slip in term usage..

Takai>>>

You learn something everyday. My car came with a 4.3 ratio and since its auspec I assumed that was the standard? Sorry. As for my t18 rear end. I will investigate this further. I believe I used the correct equation of teeth counting. As When I counted a friends it was 3.9 and mine 4.1. Statement removed until clarified.

ed_jza80>> All too true, Again I put it down to being an idiot from the moment I wokeup and posted and ran to work =p Typing something and thinking the other. As far as the rest goes I posted said info because Ive done it first hand several times.

Mic>> Nice comment at the end of your post, your very intelligent and all class. :rolleyes:

SeptemberSquall
16-12-2005, 10:28 AM
heres some for the ae86;

-t18 rear end bolts directly in, they come with either 4.1 or 3.9 ratios which are both lower than a stock sprinters 4.3 the only difference are some dont have panhard mounts (but sprinter ones can be cut off and welded on).

1. The standard AE86 rear end is not a 4.3 ratio.
2. A 3.9 or 4.1 ratio is not lower than a 4.3 ratio.
3. All T18 differentials have a panhard rod mount ffs. Some don't have stabiliser bar mounts, which is another thing entirely.

Love,
Mic

truenosedan
16-12-2005, 10:43 AM
ae86 standard jdm 4.3
ae86 standard adm 3.9

ta22 - 4.1
ta22 (auto) - 4.3

t18 series 1, no swaybar, 3.7
t18 series 2, swaybar, 3.9

bathurst - 91 please edit the mistakes in your post

ed_jza80
16-12-2005, 12:17 PM
bathurst - please MAKE SURE as far as humanly possible that all information is accurate...

please edit as required above

also - generally speaking, remember its best to post information you KNOW rather than information youve HEARD. the internet is full misinfomation, particularly US 'facts' that are complete shit. please be wary

truenosedan
16-12-2005, 12:30 PM
bathurst you should also not that the tailshaft rear half must be t series and the front must be to suit 4a t-50

takai
16-12-2005, 01:15 PM
Also note that there is a completely seperate thread for inter-marque interchangabilities.
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=260

Thats where most of your observations should go.

brett_celicacoupe
16-12-2005, 10:36 PM
a good general throttle cable upgrade for RWD celicas (and others) is the MX62 cable. it is long as (unlike the RA60 item) and it will fit any engine pretty much. i had it in the RA40 with the 18RG and its a PERFECT fit for the 1GGTE!!!. these pedals come in floor-mounted config and floating config. It was really nothing to adapt it to the ra40

hemi twofifteen turbo
17-12-2005, 01:42 PM
TA/RA2X doors are interchangeable, except the early ta22 did not have side intrusion bars.
clutch slave/master cylinders seem to be (or at least work) the same for ta22/ra23/ra40 at least and prob a whole lot more.

sam-131
18-12-2005, 08:32 PM
umm
corona st141 share the same springs as

fronts
rt142 (edit) irs & non irs
ra60
ra65
sa63
bmw e36(318,320,325)

rears
rt142(edit) non irs
ra40
ra60

not sure if thats any help but yeh :D

ZZT231
18-12-2005, 09:35 PM
RAV4 Rear Shocks fit the SA63/RA65/MA61

myne
21-12-2005, 07:32 PM
I question the "fact" that ae92 front hubs are the same as AW11 rears.

From what I saw the AW11 rear hubs have a bolt-on T-piece below them that contains the ball joint that bolts DOWN into the wishbone.

The AE92 on the other hand uses a traditional wishbone bourne balljoint that goes UP into the hub.

On the up side, it appears as if the 5-stud sv20 Camry hubs are identical to the AW11's. I cannot 100% verify it, but they look bloody similar if someone's looking for a stud pattern upgrade.

TooF
21-12-2005, 07:51 PM
I question the "fact" that ae92 front hubs are the same as AW11 rears.

From what I saw the AW11 rear hubs have a bolt-on T-piece below them that contains the ball joint that bolts DOWN into the wishbone.

The AE92 on the other hand uses a traditional wishbone bourne balljoint that goes UP into the hub.

On the up side, it appears as if the 5-stud sv20 Camry hubs are identical to the AW11's. I cannot 100% verify it, but they look bloody similar if someone's looking for a stud pattern upgrade.


not the whole stub axle.. just the wheel hub itself. as in the piece you press into the bearing and then the wheel bolts onto.

on both of our twos they have had a wheel bearing give up and chew out the hub piece. both of the rear left hubs on our twos are currently off ae92's

not only interchanagble but part number is the same :) 43502-20030

*edited for spelling*

Hen
21-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Axles that will fit a TE72 diff after they have been shortened 10mm with an angle grinder:
RT132 (Jap spec worked, can't comment on Oz)
RA60

I assume RA40 would also mork, but I haven't witnessed it yet.

Hen

myne
22-12-2005, 02:54 PM
not the whole stub axle.. just the wheel hub itself. as in the piece you press into the bearing and then the wheel bolts onto.

on both of our twos they have had a wheel bearing give up and chew out the hub piece. both of the rear left hubs on our twos are currently off ae92's

not only interchanagble but part number is the same :) 43502-20030

*edited for spelling*

Fair enough then. What other stub axles are the same - do you know?
I swear the SV20 camry's looks spot on, but it'd be nice to know for sure.

Dom-AE71
27-12-2005, 10:27 PM
bit of an oddity here. but it is possible to put TA22 Celica struts into a KE30/55 corolla without modifitying the strut tower and using a standard KE30/55 strut top if you use a ST141 corona rear spring INVERTED.

a simple brake upgrade then would be JDM AE86 vented rotors & calipers with custom brackets and there you have a pretty simple strut setup for the KE30/55.

NOW the advantage of using TA22 struts over XT130. TA22 are shorter therefore do not need to be shortned if you wish to lower the car a decent amount without converting to coilovers. whilst the hilux twin spot calipers will bolt the the XT130 struts you can do a VERY simple brake upgade on the TA22's using a Girlock (Commodore VK-VS) caliper and a Pintara 250mm vented disc.

EDIT - The bracket im talking about would have to be custom made. Please do not PM me about this. Thankyou.

MOOKIE
28-12-2005, 12:29 AM
MX75 (i think) rear brake pads are the same as a corona disk rear.

Im not 100% thats the model of the cressida but it's something that is similar to that.

chris_rg
28-12-2005, 09:11 AM
pretty sure this hasn't been posted.

21R distributor electronic internals bolt inside the 18R (some 18RG) distributors with no modifications.

This is excellent if you need a method for triggering an aftermarket computer.

see attached photos. or see here for more larger photos,

http://www.users.on.net/~csharman/

The points carrier just unbolts out of the 18r dizzy and the VR sensor carrier bolts in. The top half of the dizzy shaft is completely swapped with the top half from the 21r (little screw down the middle) The vr sensor wiring even fits nicely out a slot in the dizzy body.

Cheers
Chris

barned01
28-12-2005, 09:35 AM
chris_rg:
would this require a remapping of the distributor for the 18 r after you have put the 21 r internals in it?

chris_rg
28-12-2005, 12:20 PM
chris_rg:
would this require a remapping of the distributor for the 18 r after you have put the 21 r internals in it?

The end result still uses the mechanical advance weights and vacuum advance thingo from the 18r so the advance should be fine. This means you can swap over all the electronic ignition parts such as ignitor and coil as use the as a points replacement option.

Bare in mind that one 18rg dizzy i have here is totally different and 21r bits don't fit.

In my setup though i have removed the weights and added a washer so that the top half of the shaft is locked to the bottom half. I have also adjusted the vacuum advance so that it has no movement. The sensor triggers the computer which handles advance itself.

Mr DOHC
29-12-2005, 09:02 AM
22r dizzy bits fit too

o_man_ra23
29-12-2005, 06:03 PM
Checked and confirmed today... RT142 corona fuel tank and fuel filter fit into RA60 perfectly... The RA60 even has the mounting bolt holes for the filter on the side of the engine bay. The fuel line from the RT142 wasnt very close to the right bend though, so it took a lot of re-bending to get it in, but i got there. Ill let you all know how i go with other parts of the swap, like the clutch pedal etc.

Cheers, Owen

GTtwin
29-12-2005, 06:52 PM
Speaking of Coronas, for a decent front brake upgrade on an RT142/ST141 you can use RA6x Celica hubs, rotors and calipers. It bolts on with no mods and it's a substantial improvement over the solid-disc stockers.

Or for for the lazy ones out there, (i.e - me), MX-73 discs and callipers go straight onto ST-141 hubs.

74ROLLA
29-12-2005, 09:00 PM
Everyone probably knows this already but for any one who doesn't, here goes.

When fitting a 4AGE into a KE3x/5x corolla the sprinter T50 gearbox rubber mount bolts straight onto the KE gearbox crossmember. This then bolts to the rearward gearbox crossmember bolt holes on the chassis of the KE. I don't know if this is the same for KE1x/2x corolla's though.
Custom engine mounts then need to be made to suit.

Hope this is useful to some one considering this conversion.

This is the same for KE20/25 Corolla's

Some more info on KE20/25
KE20 and KE25 doors are different - windows surround is lower on the 25 due to lower roof line but can be changed with a KE20 surround if fitting on a '20

KE10 thru to KE26 stud pattern on wheels is 4 x 110 - interchangable with early 70's Mazda

KE30-55 discs can be fitted to KE20 hubs to keep stud pattern, but minimum 13" wheels required with KE30-55 discs

Dom-AE71
29-12-2005, 09:15 PM
This is the same for KE20/25 Corolla's

Some more info on KE20/25
KE20 and KE25 doors are different - windows surround is lower on the 25 due to lower roof line but can be changed with a KE20 surround if fitting on a '20

KE10 thru to KE26 stud pattern on wheels is 4 x 110 - interchangable with early 70's Mazda

KE30-55 discs can be fitted to KE20 hubs to keep stud pattern, but minimum 13" wheels required with KE30-55 discs

jsut trying to confirm wat is said here. T50 rubber gearbox mount onto a K50 gearbox crossmember?

BradW
29-12-2005, 11:05 PM
jsut trying to confirm wat is said here. T50 rubber gearbox mount onto a K50 gearbox crossmember?
T50 gearbox rubber mount onto K gearbox crossmember.
Is there a difference between K40 and K50 gearbox crossmembers?
Stewart would be able to answer this.

TA22 GT
30-12-2005, 12:17 AM
Not really an oddity, but an interchanging myth. One thing I have been told is TA22 and RA23 bonnet hinges are NOT interchangable. I would like to disperse this myth.

Looks a little bit funny due to the angle , but I assure you they are identical.

Dude,
TA22 and RA23 hinges are not interchangable. They are different sizes. Sure you might be able to make them work by bolting onto a different spot but they DON'T fit straight on.
Try bolting an RA23 hinge onto a TA22 in the original place and you will change your view on this....

BTW, an auto tailshaft from an early TA22 will fit straight onto a W55-57 gearbox without any mods. Also an auto cross member is a perfect fit for a W55 into TA22, just have to move the mounts back a little.

Cheers,
Simon

74ROLLA
30-12-2005, 05:44 AM
Is there a difference between K40 and K50 gearbox crossmembers?
Stewart would be able to answer this.

K40 and K50 gearbox are identical in every way (length, shifter position, etc) so same crossmember.
EXCEPT FOR K50 OUT OF A KE70, which is a different shifter position

BradW
30-12-2005, 08:30 PM
Another one for those doing a smallport (100kw) 4age conversion.
I bought an ecu and engine harness for my conversion and found that the harness did not come with the 12 pin ecu plug (which I believe is connected to the body harness on the donor car). After much searching I found that the wide body Camry (sorry, don't know the chassis code) with the s series engine has the same type of plugs on the ecu as the 100kw 4AGE.
I was also told by The Witzl to look for an abs plug from a toyota of the same year model as the donor car as these are also the same.

newbien
31-12-2005, 03:18 PM
another one for the AE86/70/71 TE72 boys

Tercel 17mm rear sway bar is a direct bolt on

Youngy
01-01-2006, 01:29 PM
Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is very easy to get the 4 spot front brake calipers off the 4WD Hilux and bolt them onto the front of the 2WD Hilux?

Thanks

ra23celica
02-01-2006, 10:25 AM
The rear main oil seal for a 4E engined Startlet fits the 1G motor perfectly.

Stomp86
02-01-2006, 02:59 PM
I need confirmation on this but im about 99% sure....

AW11 Proportioning valve can be fitted to AE86 that has T series disk rear end to fix the bias issues created by replacing the drum diff....

Adam

EldarO
03-01-2006, 02:05 AM
found a jdm 3sfe st204 (base model)? celica has a two bolt alloy 15/16 brake master and bolts up in ke70/te71/te72 etc and probably all rwd corollas fwiw.. has level sensor and a neat snout on the filler so no more fluid sloshing out on those sideways excursions! brake line outlets a bit different so some mods to those required.

4wd ae10# and most 4wd celica carib rav4 etc have T series rear irs diff with 2.8:1 ratio. be interesing to see if those tall gears are small enough to fit a te7/ae86 corolla live axle?

anyone *completed* the altezza torsen a01b into live axle F series? ive so far sat it in the housing and bearings etc fit nice but the lsd carrier seems to *just* contact the pinion gear so might need 1mm removed off the pinion gear in my case. (tho the pinion was original F series one)

10" disk upgrade on ae86/ jdm te71 T diff. have seen a few jdm ma45 celica/supra mk1 with T series disk brake (non vented) diff with 10" brakes.. ma45 diff is wider but bolt pattern on end of T housing same.. calipers are same style as jdm te71 but different caliper bolt spacing... so will be possible to use ma45 caliper mount, caliper and disks on other T series disk brake diffs for 1" bigger disks.

E7 chassis and ae85/ae86 have identical shaped engine crossmembers with or without rack mounts. so say you want a 3tgt in a ke70 with rack.. use ke70/ae8# rack crossmember and carefully cut mounts off a te7# xmember and weld on the rack one for bolt up and factory mounting positions. (ive done it)

C and S bellhousings have same bolt pattern. bell front face needs to be milled to correct input shaft/ spigot allignment and space starter out in depending which starter used. (known someone do it)

G and W boxs have same bolt pattern to the bellhouse.. so liteace/townace/hiace etc vans with G52/G55 (side shifter) etc have bellhousings for supra box. 5k liteace has supra box bellhousing ha ha

1G reduction gear starter motors fit T engines. have tested it on 3tgte.. may have clearance issues on custom manifs etc

kp61 starlet k50 are bolt into ke3/ke2 corolla's because shifter is midway on tail housing, ke70 k50 shifter is at end of tail housing and tunnel cutting required and different mount.
kp61 tail housings can be swapped onto ke70/ae70/ae85 k50 box's


I have a YM35 Liteace, i was under the impression that the gearbox my car uses bolts directly up to an s series engine, i.e. 3SGTE etc.

So K series liteaces have bellhousings for W and G series engines, and the Y series Liteaces have bellhousings for an S series engines, good for that RWD 3sgte conversion ;) they're also very tough boxes aswell (apparantly).

Eldar.O.

WDE_BDY
03-01-2006, 06:39 AM
So K series liteaces have bellhousings for W and G series engines, and the Y series Liteaces have bellhousings for an S series engines, good for that RWD 3sgte conversion ;) they're also very tough boxes aswell (apparantly).

Eldar.O.

Its W and G series boxes that are same bolt pattern, not engines. So what you need to confirm is if the Y engine and S engine are the same or similar bellhousing pattern. If they are then the Y to G bellhousing will work on an S to W.

Callum

takai
03-01-2006, 09:14 AM
Yeah, that is correct. Joel at one point, and Gabe too, were using 1Y bellhousings on their 3S RWD projects.

takai
06-01-2006, 10:31 PM
Ok, for reference. TA22 clutch slaves fit JDM Bellhousings (clutch slave on drivers side) perfectly.

oldcorollas
07-01-2006, 02:40 AM
K40 and K50 gearbox are identical in every way (length, shifter position, etc) so same crossmember.
EXCEPT FOR K50 OUT OF A KE70, which is a different shifter position

to clarify, there are at least 4 versions of K40 and 2 of the K50 in the corolla series..
3 different shifter positions (2 variants of the middle position. the KE20 vesrions sucks and most ppl break it the first time they try and pull the shifter out ;) ), and for each shifter position the shift rods are different.... all except KE70 boxes have same rear mount.

however, shift rods can be swapped from box to box.. but at times, you may need to alter the position of the reverse switch.. (KE70 is at front of box, KE10 is in ext housing etc)
K50 extension housings between KE55 and KE70 are direct swap.
however, some things are not the same... notably the layshaft needle roller bearings come in at least 2 sizes... as do the bearings between the input and output shafts

i've had various combinations of al models stuck together at different times..

oh, and three different sets of speedo drives.. 5/19, 6/20 and 6/21... the 20 and 21 driven gears are interchangeable if the drive gear is 6 teeth, but not the 5 tooth.
5/19 came in KE10, and will fit in all the other K boxes

bullitt
08-01-2006, 05:03 AM
This question is belong to my friend..he want to change idler arm for TA22 celica,but idler arm for celica is very hard to find it in my place..Anyone knows from what model toyota are identical to TA22 and can interchange..Thanks.

andurils_sheath
08-01-2006, 11:25 AM
Autotrends (Kuching) 47 Light Ind, Yoshi Square, Jalan Simen Raya, Kuching, Sarawak
, 93450 Tel- 82 484628 Fax- 82 330803

Tri Automaxx,Selangor, West Malaysia, Sdn. Bhd, No. 26, Jalan P10/19,Selaman Industrial Park, 43650 Bandar Baru Bangi
603-8926 1168 triautomaxx@yahoo.com

Both of these stores resell pedders products who subsequently stock ta22 idler arms, might cost a fair bit, but new is always gunna be better than second hand. Hope that helps mate.

bullitt
09-01-2006, 01:53 AM
I will talk to my friend...thanks for the info..:)

Toycrash
11-01-2006, 06:55 AM
ae86 standard jdm 4.3
ae86 standard adm 3.9

To add a little here...
AE86 GT has T-series diff with 43:10 gears as 4.3:1 ratio
AE86 SR has S-series diff and 43:11 gears as 3.9:1 ratio.(4.1:1 with automatic)

I belive GT is JAP spec and SR is AUS and US spec.

GT is for sure EURO spec.

Hope this clarifies something.
These facts are from EPC

Steve-AE86
11-01-2006, 08:52 AM
Another one for those doing a smallport (100kw) 4age conversion.
I bought an ecu and engine harness for my conversion and found that the harness did not come with the 12 pin ecu plug (which I believe is connected to the body harness on the donor car). After much searching I found that the wide body Camry (sorry, don't know the chassis code) with the s series engine has the same type of plugs on the ecu as the 100kw 4AGE.
I was also told by The Witzl to look for an abs plug from a toyota of the same year model as the donor car as these are also the same.

model code sxv10.

i'm fairly sure there are other ecu's that use the same 12pin plug as well.

ddeane
11-01-2006, 09:09 AM
St141 Corona live axle rear disk brakes bolt up to the RA40 diff (I assume the 23/28's are the same)

There is a problem with the axles ending up with about 5mm of end float due to the extra thickness of the caliper mount that sits between the axle retainer plate and the diff housing. The corona's would have the same problem, they have a different part number for the disk brake axle retainer plate which i believe will fix the problem. Just haven't got around to getting a look at one yet.... If not, then a sleeve could be machined up and welded to the inside of the retainer plate to take up the slack between it and the outer ring of the bearing.

Longer studs are needed to retain the axle and the steel brake pipes shortened and reflared too.

Haven't tackled the handbrake yet but don't see why the corona cables can't be used.

Darren.

Check Tech Articles as all is explained.

CrUZida
11-01-2006, 09:38 AM
MTEU, 1GGTE and 1JZGTE tachos all require the same signal.

Talasas
11-01-2006, 11:26 AM
AE92 Secas have the same front end as overseas AE90, AE91 Sprinters (including sedans). In fact the overseas model Sprinter Cielo has many features in common with Australian Built AE93 SX Secas including:

- bonnet, guards and has the "2 slot" or "3 slot" front bumper
- 7 dial instrument cluster (with far less kms on average!)
- Suspension same to that of SX/GTi models (95% sure)
- all interior parts fit but they are a trim which is either the same grade as a CS, SE model or a grey trim not available in Aus.

Differently, they have a double-DIN stereo/CD player from factory and some feature different climate controls. They also have a grille not available on Aussie model E9's.

o_man_ra23
11-01-2006, 02:09 PM
This question is belong to my friend..he want to change idler arm for TA22 celica,but idler arm for celica is very hard to find it in my place..Anyone knows from what model toyota are identical to TA22 and can interchange..Thanks.

Mate, The RA40 item is NEARLY identical. The idler arm basically has 3 parts. There is the base with bushing shaft which bolts to the subframe, the bushes that connect between the base and the arm itself, and the arm which is somewhat similar to a pitman arm. If you buy an RA40 item, then remove the arm and bushes from the base, and place these onto the TA22 ilder base, then viola you have a cheaper alternative which does the same job. You dont need to worry about the fatigue on the idler base, as it doesnt see much loading unless in a crash situation.

Cheers, Owen

Karbunkle
11-01-2006, 09:49 PM
Due to a shortage of AE86 4A alternators in our area myself and Wiggles found out that the RA60 21R alternator fits AE86 4A with minimal modification to the 4A’s top alternator bracket and we used Bosch Alt. belt - 11A1030.

100% sure it works, if anyone is interested either of us could supply some pictures.

Salad Fingers
12-01-2006, 08:18 AM
3S-FE(and I think 5S-FE) alternators (i've tried two so far) bolt up to my RWD AE86 4A-GE.

Cheap at wreckers too. :)

Wiggles
12-01-2006, 12:02 PM
Salad Fingers - do the 3S/5S-FE alternators need a different belt or bracket mods? or is it a straight fit?

Karbunkle and I would like to thank Jaquie from Super cheap Sandgate for letting us return the 7 alternator belts we test fitted while trying to get my Sprinter back on the road.:P

Salad Fingers
12-01-2006, 08:23 PM
Wiggles, mine bolted straight on, stock everything, except I dont have a 'stock' belt to compare it to, I just used a belt that looked the right size and it turned out to be.
But since it uses the stock mounts i'd say a stock belt would be fine.

MS-75
17-01-2006, 12:19 PM
I've just fitted my 4.5L PETROL Landcruiser motor with a set of 2JZ head studs. They are a straight drop-in.

Awesome.

MR 1JZ
17-01-2006, 12:20 PM
I've just fitted my 4.5L PETROL Landcruiser motor with a set of 2JZ head studs. They are a straight drop-in.

Awesome.

sean do you know if 2J studs are the same as 1J?

MS-75
17-01-2006, 12:24 PM
sean do you know if 2J studs are the same as 1J?

Not sure dude, but if you can give me a 1JZ head bolt and a couple of measurements I can tell you.

MR 1JZ
17-01-2006, 12:27 PM
i would love too...except mine are in my motor :(

MS-75
17-01-2006, 12:37 PM
I'd say they probably are. Drop past my place sometime and I'l have a look if you like. I should be able to work it out.

Actually, I'll have a mate measure up the bolts on his 1J and get back to you.

MR 1JZ
17-01-2006, 12:39 PM
awesome cheers!

+ 1 rep for you :)

also i might take you up on the offer of a drop by as I wanna check out this super crown in the flesh...

takai
17-01-2006, 02:18 PM
This is getting off topic, but doesnt Kirby have the bolts out of his 1J?

myne
17-01-2006, 02:26 PM
BTW, I commented earlier in this thread that SV21 camry front axle assemblies might work on an AW11 MR2 rear.
I recently acquired one, and no, it wont. Simple reason being the hole for the steering arm is tapered in reverse to the MR2's. MR2 steering arms bolt in from below, SV21's from above. Aside from that, it still looks damn identical.

MR 1JZ
17-01-2006, 02:29 PM
This is getting off topic, but doesnt Kirby have the bolts out of his 1J?

i was there on sunday and it looked like the head was intact :S

Classique71
19-01-2006, 06:53 PM
An amendment

St205 rear brake assembly DOES bolt up to an St185 - though - as discovered today - there is issues with the handbrake cable .. Am in the process if working out how to rectify this - as its got to so with the small clamps that hold the cable to stop it flexing ..

Small issue re making the rear shoes come out a little - addes bonus squeak squeak atm in the back end as its rubbing a little inside the brake shoe

ra_28
20-01-2006, 07:44 PM
TRX Blue Bird disc Brakes fit T series diffs with little mods.
RT104 Corona manual tail shafts fit RA23/28.
Ms85 crown rear vision mirror with night view fits RT104 Coronas.
BMW M3 pressures plates fit 18r flywheels all you need to do is redrill the mounting bolt holes and dowel holes.
Ms85 crown glove box lights fit Rt104 Coronas

andurils_sheath
20-01-2006, 07:49 PM
TRX Blue Bird disc Brakes fit T series diffs with little mods.
RT104 Corona manual tail shafts fit RA23/28.
Ms85 crown rear vision mirror with night view fits RT104 Coronas.
BMW M3 pressures plates fit 18r flywheels all you need to do is redrill the mounting bolt holes and dowel holes.
Ms85 crown glove box lights fit Rt104 Coronas

Any more info on this, ie. Does it only apply to disc brake t series diffs, or drum brake diffs as well. As well as this what calipers can be used and what is required to get it all together.

Cheers

ra_28
20-01-2006, 08:12 PM
Sorry the TRX blue bird disc all that need to be done is go to the wrecker and get the hole setup off the end of the axles including calipers and hand brake cables.

To mount the rotors the four bolt holes which mount to the end of the axle housing have to be slotted in about 3mm not much and bobs your uncle there on there the brake line has to rebent a little not much.

The setup of the hand brake cables is a little bit more tricky I wish i still was running the setup I would have taken some photos just use the whole cable becasue the cable I got had the same setup as a ra28 where you adjust the cable from the inside the cabin so it was just how you supported the cable under the car. I made a few Brackets up and it worked ok.

The size of the rear rotors and calipers is quite large so if your fitting larger barkes to the front the bias workes out very well.

I know this will work on ra23/28 and RT104 coronas pre bog warner because these are the cars I have played with.

andurils_sheath
20-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Ok, that sounds sick, thanks for that, I'll give it a shot on my TA22, ill see what i can screw around with down at the wreckers before i go for anything solid. This is from a 81-86 Bluebird correct or the 93-97 model and is it only the TRX model?

Cheers
Btw Rep for you.

ra_28
20-01-2006, 08:39 PM
I got mine off the 81-86 model

Youngy
21-01-2006, 11:26 AM
Hi all,

I am still wondering if anyone knows how easy it might be to get the 4 spot calipers off a 4WD Hilux (IFS one perhaps) and bolt them up to the front of the 2WD Hilux?

Cheers

Granto
22-01-2006, 03:44 AM
minimum text.

3sgte
22-01-2006, 09:26 PM
Front driveshafts for GT-Four's are ¼" longer than the RAV's,

Interesting info.

ST16? (Canadian Celica GTS) frt axles in an AE101 are about the same amount too long.
(as fitted with a JDM 3SGE and tranny).
The Celica driveshafts fit the hubs just fine.

This approximately matches up with my crude attempts at measuring track on the Corolla and Celica that I checked.

I kept my frt end at stock height, and went a bit stiffer, so I never bothered with spacers.

A gen 2 3SGE will run tolerably well with a Gen 1 EFI setup (L-type Canada spec) as long as one isn't too worried about idle speed control. The gen 2 TVIS can be made to function as well, although the switchover point isn't as nice as could be...
It will also start at -30 Deg C without the cold start injector. Never did get around to hooking it up...
Edit: used the gen 2 injectors with the Gen 1 EFI,

filthman
22-01-2006, 09:55 PM
KE30 Corolla Stuff

XT130 (RT132, etc) struts fit into the KE3x / 55 using the standard Corolla bearing plate and a TA22 spring. Saves having to cut and weld spring mounts. :)

HJ60 Landcruiser 4-piston calipers bolt straight onto the XT130 / RT132 struts

Mazda RX7 pads (series 6) fit straight into HJ60 calipers. (like the Skyline pads into Hilux calipers). The pads are a little bit smaller surface area then the Skyline pads, but on a Corolla or early Celica it will still have more then enough braking power. Plus there are HEAPS of different compound pads available for the RX7 (probably more then available for the Skyline).

All this is confirmed as its whats in my car. Discs are as per the XT130 / Hilux / Pug setup.

And 18RG's do fit into KE35's - but its a tight fit between the clear cleaners and the brake booster!!! :D

crowncustom
28-01-2006, 11:10 PM
What clutch pedal will fit a MX62 Cressida?Someone in an earlier reply said ST 141 Corona will fit but with mods.Is this true?if so what mods r needed?and also what tailshaft can be used for manual conversion?RT 104 front springs fit RT40 front.18RG fits RT40 with little mods.RT81 front discs and stub axles fit RT40.Nearly all Toyota steering wheels will fit most Toyotas,usually only the indicator pins r different.
Cheers Brett.

WHITCHY
07-02-2006, 06:09 PM
MA61 power windows fit directly into an AE86.
The hardest part is mounting the driverside switch. You can either use your imagination or do as I did:
Cut the 2 wires leading to the motor on each door and extend these to the centre console and re connect them then wire it up from there and either somehow mount the switches there, or go and source some slimmer aftermarket ones.
Join all the earth wires together and run the single wire to the -ve terminal, and then either tap into the ignition or as I did and tap into the power for the window wipers for ignition switched power, and use an inline 10A fuse. and the rest just clicks into place!

Cheers.
-Whitchy-

phrostbyte
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
RA28 struts into AE86 for a quick brake upgrade. No need for master cylinder upgrade.

Could also grab AE86 steering arms (best pick for match of acherman angle, otherwise corona XT130 ones fit) and chuck them in a KE70/AE71 to mount either AE86 struts or RA28 (and I'm sure there are many more that bolt straight in).

Corona XT130 Lower control arms into AE86/KE70/AE71 for around 2 degrees negative camber.

Kev.

crowncustom
08-02-2006, 09:28 PM
RT 132 struts are slighly different to XT 130's.Why you may be saying?The reason is that the RT 132 strut insert is longer than the XT 130's not by much but enuff to stop you from putting the screw retainer on that holds the strut insert in.

AndyTTR
08-02-2006, 09:30 PM
Not that anyone cares, but ST184 / ST204 heater cores are not backward compatible with the ST162... as I found out today. :mad:

1GT04
09-02-2006, 07:31 PM
hi all,
XT130 struts and disc will bolt up early hilux 4 spot non vented disc.

1GT04
09-02-2006, 07:44 PM
SORRY ITS MX73 STRUTS!!! With hilux 4 spots> and will bolt in to a R23 Celica.and more:)

SIKPUPY
10-02-2006, 08:43 PM
G52 gearbox bolts up to a 1G bell housing

Late 90's turbo diesel hilux clutch kit (pressure plate. clutch plate + bearing) will bolt straight onto the 1G flywheel. Wont slip flat changing into 3rd either........

Hilux clutch slave cylinder off 4Y is on wrong side to 1G, although 1G slave cylinder will work of hilux clutch master cylinder.

3 core 6cyl Vl radiator is more than enough to keep a 1G cool.

landcruiser master cylinder fits onto most hilux 4x4's the Booster apparently will with a slight modification.

4Y engine mounts are just not strong enough for a 1GGZE :)

ReQuieM
10-02-2006, 10:09 PM
RA28 struts into AE86 for a quick brake upgrade. No need for master cylinder upgrade.


Does this mean the reverse is true? Coil overs for ra28's! :D

andurils_sheath
10-02-2006, 11:34 PM
Its in the US but seems ok to me.

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=87/CA=18

3sgte
20-02-2006, 02:46 AM
A few odd-bits when comparing 4WD Toyota stuff...

RAV's and GT-Four's share the same drivetrain setup, only front/rear drive bias is reversed.
Dropping in a 3S-GTE into a 3S-FE's engine bay will be a tad tight, but it will work. No mods necessary, mounts are the same.
Front driveshafts for GT-Four's are ¼" longer than the RAV's, but you can get a spacer to fix this. Rear driveshafts are identical. All use the same # of splines.


ST165 Rear driveshafts could be deemed a little different, the stubs on my 89 were held in by circlips from inside the diff. By circlips, I mean the same type (square profile) that is often used to hold a cv joint to a shaft. Snap ring pliers were required, with the diff cover removed.

The "period" TRD LSD required replacement of the axle stubs, presumably for the normal knock-in type stubs.

Thankfully I didn't break anything finding out...

YelloRolla
20-02-2006, 09:46 AM
FJ20 Landcruiser alternator bolts to 3T GTE. Needs different plug and pulley.

Mattrt142
21-02-2006, 06:03 PM
hey guys i read a quote that ra65 springs are the same as rt142. I have heard this is true what else in the suspension department would be excatly the same . shocks swaybars etc??/ thanks heaps

YelloRolla
27-02-2006, 12:29 AM
just remebered - they 18R/18RG lower timing chain is exactly the same as a Holden 253/308 chain. These are available from every Tom, DIck or Robbo's spare parts store.

ke-70-ge
08-03-2006, 10:20 PM
upper control arms of a celesior are not the same as the LS400

complete rear axle of a sprinter will bolt straight in a ke70/ ae71

MR 1JZ
09-03-2006, 09:55 AM
upper control arms of a celesior are not the same as the LS400

thats funny...I thought celsiors and LS400's were IDENTICAL cars...

are you sure you dont mean there is a difference in the upper control arms for Airbag and Non-Airbag models?

that would be more likely but still unlikely...

Invid
10-03-2006, 09:53 AM
Contrary to popular belief not ALL T-18s had the 20 spline output shaft on the t50 gearbox. the 1983 model had a 22 spline outputshaft with 2 "gear positing switches" for various 3TC emissions stuff

I can confirm this, I have a T50 that was pulled out of an imported TE71 (2TGEU) and the spline will not match the TA22 driveshaft.

Invid
10-03-2006, 10:38 AM
I'm surprised no ones mentioned this yet but:

18RG top timing chain tensioners can be use in 2TGs

TE71 Pitman Arms will fit a TA22 (just)

TE71 wiper motor fits a TA22 - has a few extra wires (intermitent ?)

Things that didn't work:

RA23 Tie rod sleeves don't fit TA22, in-fact nothing does and you can't buy them anymore. Whatever you do, be nice to your tie rods.

All aftermarket pitman arms (that I've tried to fit) for a TA22 are in fact for RA2X and will not fit (will hit your cross member).

ke-70-ge
10-03-2006, 09:43 PM
thats funny...I thought celsiors and LS400's were IDENTICAL cars...

are you sure you dont mean there is a difference in the upper control arms for Airbag and Non-Airbag models?

that would be more likely but still unlikely...



maybe youe right about non-airbag model
we had a celsior in our workshop and they were different.
found it very hard to find parts for a celsior.

yotamotion
11-03-2006, 01:24 AM
Some more inter-model changes for you.
MZ10/11 rear stub axles and discs/calipers are interchangeable with MX73, therefore making an instant brake upgrade for the soarer as the MX73 rear discs are vented and the brake pads are about 20% larger. MX 73 rear pads will also fit into MZ20 brakes. Also early cressida (MX3*)idler arms can be replaced with T18 ones.

1jzracing
11-03-2006, 12:43 PM
1JZ - 2JZ and 3SG

all share the same piston rings

YelloRolla
11-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Things that didn't work:

RA23 Tie rod sleeves don't fit TA22, in-fact nothing does and you can't buy them anymore. Whatever you do, be nice to your tie rods.

All aftermarket pitman arms (that I've tried to fit) for a TA22 are in fact for RA2X and will not fit (will hit your cross member).
When you refer to tie rod sleeves do you mean tie rod ends?

edgar_raphael
11-03-2006, 05:00 PM
My mate in Malaysia did this, converted the 4AGZE into 20V-4AGTE

Block is still from the old 4AGZE and replaced the head with a 20SVT item.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6459/corollagze29ao.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9881/photo2914ge.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2610/photo3220yx.jpg

Shifty
12-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but RA60 rotors and calipers BOLT ON to an ST141... $35.00 for a set of calipers with pads and near-new slotted rotors from a wrecker... not a bad buy eh?

Invid
13-03-2006, 10:41 AM
When you refer to tie rod sleeves do you mean tie rod ends?

Ok I'm going to have to use my technical language:

The adjustable bit that holds the two tie rod ends together. The bit you turn to change the wheen alignment...

Does that make sense?

YelloRolla
13-03-2006, 10:50 AM
Yes taht does make perfect sense. I guess that these shouldn't wear out!

I am also wondering if the tie rod ends (ball joint bit) and pitman arm may be the same as the KE20?

Invid
13-03-2006, 09:18 PM
Have you got any measurements as I'm happy to measure them up against the various tierods I tried to fit...

thomasbl
20-03-2006, 02:07 PM
Just installed the windscreen wiper motor from a GA70- 88, into my ra28.

Looks diferent, smaller and neater but everything lines up.

i assume this means a large number of supra wiper motors will fit most older celicas?

tom

The Witzl
21-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Just installed the windscreen wiper motor from a GA70- 88, into my ra28.

Looks diferent, smaller and neater but everything lines up.

i assume this means a large number of supra wiper motors will fit most older celicas?

tom

correct.... its a common upgrade that many do when they buy their GA70 frontcut :)


Another interchangability or two....

UZS131 brake master cylinders fit RA2* boosters. Nice big fat 1" bore M.C. for all your braking needs :)

ST205 brake M.C. fits an AE71 booster. These move a LOOOOT of fluid!

vin91
22-03-2006, 06:28 PM
Ta22 and RA23 Steering Columns are Nearly Interchangable, all you have to do is Replace the Base Plate, Not Hard for the Technically Minded. Then you have wipers and Headlight Controlls on the Column.

mumblezzz
22-03-2006, 07:19 PM
7MGE alternators also work on 4AGE's. Same plug too.

JetspeedCamry
22-03-2006, 09:17 PM
Here's some i know of..

- All V6 flywheels from 1988 to 2001 are the same.
- An E153 gearbox will bolt up to an early model 2VZFE
- The ST162 and SV21/VZV21 steering spline/offset is the same, hence they can share steering wheels.

A V6 flywheel will bolt up to an 8 bolt 3SFE, but is larger than the 3SFE stock flywheel by 0.5". Hence, a 3SFE/GE/GTE flywheel will not work on a V6. It will bolt up, but will slip.

BradW
22-03-2006, 10:00 PM
ST205 brake M.C. fits an AE71 booster. These move a LOOOOT of fluid!

This should then fit KE30 boosters too as the bolt pattern is the same.

BSIDE
23-03-2006, 01:14 PM
KE30 discs and calipers will fit onto KE20 wheel axles. straight swap.

although the stud pattern changes to 4 x 114.3, so you need some KE20 wheel hubs which bolt onto the 30 discs.

brake lines also fit no probs.

Dom-AE71
26-03-2006, 09:29 PM
1JZGTE injectors are a direct fit into a 20v fuel rail. im unsure if the impeedence is different but they both worked without adjusting settings on the ECU.

AndyTTR
27-03-2006, 10:11 PM
probably belongs in the other thread (which i can't find right now), but daewoo cielo front indicator globe sockets are interchangable with the front bar sockets from the early model JZA80.

漂流の技術者
09-04-2006, 09:16 PM
Anyone able to tell me if 4 pot Supra or Skyrice brakes are a direct bolt on for JZX90, and would I have to change from standard rotors to either brakes setup rotor?

mike1980ra40
13-04-2006, 03:20 AM
hatchback: front seats from SA63 fit RA40. rear bottom seat fits no problem rear fold downs
fit in with minor mods to seats.

mike1980ra40
13-04-2006, 03:36 AM
something else i thought of (if its of any use)
16R dizzy fits 18R and 20R

Cuzzo
16-04-2006, 04:12 PM
ta22 steering arms fit onto ra40 struts.
fiting ta22 springs into ra40 struts with ta22 spring hat and bolt in part(dunno what its called) bolts into a ke30 with some spring shortening.

30psi 4agte
04-07-2006, 03:44 PM
2nz-fe buckets fit a lot more motors than just the 4age.
They are also shimless buckets.


just to clarify one thing 2nz-fe bucket WILL not fit 4age and are not the same as the 1szfe buckets
They are bigger in dia.

ed_jza80
04-07-2006, 05:41 PM
just to clarify one thing 2nz-fe bucket WILL not fit 4age and are not the same as the 1szfe buckets
They are bigger in dia.

see very first post in thread

o_man_ra23
04-07-2006, 06:04 PM
SORRY ITS MX73 STRUTS!!! With hilux 4 spots> and will bolt in to a R23 Celica.and more:)

RT133/130 corona struts fit RA23/28/40, and you can either use with 2 piston sumitomo callipers (works great) or the 4 piston hilux pots with the pugeot vented rotors.

Cheers, Owen

kingmick
04-07-2006, 06:23 PM
sprinter {ae86} bonnet latch fits the gz/mz20 etc. just need to use a bolt and nut for the bottom hole and the secondary latch handle is a little shorter but can be used that way or extended.

kingmick
04-07-2006, 06:24 PM
7ag head gasket is metal shim and fits the 4ag!

30psi 4agte
05-07-2006, 01:04 AM
see very first post in thread

yeah m8 did see it but there is alot of people on this thred that have said they do fit.

Just thought i should clarify the matter :D

AE25
05-07-2006, 10:39 PM
ae86, gz10 and ga61 have same map sensor

CrUZida
05-07-2006, 10:46 PM
None of those have map sensors dude.

ace
06-07-2006, 03:05 AM
Ohhh thats hilarious, thanks for the new signature boys!!

AE25
06-07-2006, 07:33 AM
maybe not in your country! our ae86 have 4ages.. our gz10 have 1geu or 1gge and our ga61 have 1geu or 1gge. the jdm ae86 are map sensor bigport bluetop and the 1geu are jdm lasre or mk11 version (something like that) they're map sensored NOT the afm version. the toyota epc doesnt usually lie
part number 89421-12020

Screamn_Sleeka
06-07-2006, 09:35 AM
CrUZida getting ownd, add that to the sig Ace