98 Toyota Supra SZR to TT

[98SZR]

Hey guys and girls :) New to here but thought I'd share my project with you.
Pics and info of my car can be found HERE (http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28232)

Basically the car is a 1998 toyota supra SZR and I decided I wanted some more power, so off I went looking for a VVTi 2JZ with loom and ECU. Yes it was going to be expensive but I had been told about emissions and that you have to have an engine the same year or newer than your car.

Then came across the best buy ever! A 1999 VVTi 2JZ out of a supra with loom and ecu, also intake and AFM (VVTi has AFM not MAP) for $4000.

SO away I went and got some parts together:
-Blitz LM V-Spec Front Mount Intercooler Kit
-RPS Sport 6-puck Clutch with Sprung Hub
-RPS Cyn-R-G Segmented Flywheel
-OEM Clutch/flywheel gear
-Full exhaust system with tune agent dump pipe
-3" metal cat
-OEM Twin Turbo Tacho and 3 gauge cluster (NA tacho won't work due to dizzy vs coil)
-TT Fuse box (Going the EFI2 route)

All was good until the guy I was getting the 2JZ off decided was easier if I got his other VVTi 2JZ (Aristo) so we decided a price and now I have to get a few extra things, like water pump, change sump and still going to get his loom and ecu (as he is going motec and single)

So at the moment the engine should arrive this week and my 2jzge is ready to pull out.

I have had not much mechanical knowledge and done all the work myself so far, with the help of sf.com.au and MSN, (Thanks Curtis, Dave and Keith)

Anyway enough talking will slowly update where I'm up to so be sure to come and vist for more pics.

Also after some parts such as: (Some VVTi specific)

Fan Shroud-
Fan No.2
Thermostat-
Gasket-
Water Pump-
TT Clutch Master Cylinder-
Fuel filter-
VVTi Throttle cable-
Radiator hose bottom-


You can see the whole project thread by going here: http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=25065

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[98SZR]

EFI differences (TT has EFI2 sperate for pump and NA doesn't)

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[.:2DR-FTU:.]

Nice supra. Should be sweet when your all done! Is there a reason why you didnt just sell yours and buy a TT? Yours looks awesome either way! Will you be upgrading the brakes and suspension? What is the colour code for your car, i would love that colour on my rolla. :)

[98SZR]

Nice supra. Should be sweet when your all done! Is there a reason why you didnt just sell yours and buy a TT? Yours looks awesome either way! Will you be upgrading the brakes and suspension? What is the colour code for your car, i would love that colour on my rolla. :)

Thanks mate.
Well the supra I wanted was going to cost me around $40k all up (Genuine RSP RZ), so I decided I would do the conversion as I got the car for a very good price and it already has the getrag and REAS suspension, also the carbon fibre steering wheel.

Will be upgrading the brakes to the 4 pot supra brakes once the conversion is complete, got some steel braded lines to go with them. As far as suspension goes I will be probably upgrading to some aftermarket springs as I like the REAS system.

The colour code is (6NO) Moonstone, not quicksilver :)

[Norbie]

If your car is 98 it should already have the big brakes?

[98SZR]

If your car is 98 it should already have the big brakes?

No it was an optional extra, wish I had it! At the time I brought mine there was another one for sale in RSP with big brakes, but I didn't realise until after my purchase, didn't matter anyway as it was $4000 grand extra.

[98SZR]

Just a quick update:

Picked up my headlights from Melbourne headlight exchange yesterday and was very, very happy with the finished product, the lady said they were some of the best kept lights she had seen, she always was used to ones really bad so only cost me $140 for the pair, well worth it.

The engine will finally be here on Monday or Tuesday depending on how busy the company is, so will have my 2jzgte sitting in the garage very shortly, just need to get my 2jzge out!

Almost all the other stuff OEM parts are organised such as:
VVTi throttle cable (fly-by-wire) - Thanks Draven
Radiator shroud and fans- Thanks Harley
Still have to contact a guy about PWR steering reservoir and master clutch cylinder (heat shield) but I am flat broke atmo! Also found out that the soarer jzz30/31 are the same too.
Also need to order few things from toyota like water pump etc etc.

Pretty much is all the parts but can't confirm until they are sitting in front of me.

Some pretty pics of the clean lights :) So clean you can see some ugly dude takin some pics! I also manage to get some Jim beams in the pics all the time too!

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[98SZR]

Wow, should of really updated this thread, been a while, so flat out totally forgot :)
Got my water pump, thermo, gaskets and fuel filter, power enterprise timing belt, titan cam gear, greddy double pod for gauges. (boost and oil pressure)

Got following parts coming:

Power steering reservoir
Relay block no.5 (has trac and abs relays)
Relays for radiator fans
Air intake and pod (custom for AFM)
Injectors (Stock)
Supra loom
Other stuff :)

Some pics of the engine! Yes it arrived!
Found out 97+(VVTi) aristo engines are almost same as supra ones, has same water pump, t/b and plenum, same vaccum piping, has brake booster fitting etc etc

Also swapped dampners over from NA to TT, also swapped pwr steering pumps as the aristo one has a solenoid valve on it.

2jzge will be coming out this weekend with the transmission, also will take clutch out and hopefully install, need to get my hands on torque wrench, also need to install timing belt and cam gear.

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[98SZR]

Had a few of the vic supra guys visit :)


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More pics to come of Titan cam gears and parts :)

Any comments or ideas feel free to yell out!

[Herus]

I Love the Supras all lined up down the street.

Looks great.

The Neighbours would have gotten a hell of a shock.

Andrew

[98SZR]

Yes supra down the street did gather some attention, especially in a small town :)

UPDATE ENGINE OUT! WOOT!


Sorry you guys get delayed updates, just don't have heaps of time atmo!

Removed mount bolt
Removed fuel line (union bolt)
Removed pwr steering
Removed nuts on propellor shaft
Removed rear support for transmission

Then we jacked up the transmission
Got the crane and pulled the engine out

Happy, wasn't too bad to pull out, just a shit jack underneath and propellor shaft came off where I didn't think it would (Came off the intermediate shaft!, Hope the allignment is allright!)

Also have to drill new hole for oil return when other sump comes.

Also got torque wrench (200nm)

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[98SZR]

BIG UPDATE! (WELL FOR ME)

Ok, well today was a very productive day for me, in the end I had a mate come by and give me a hand put on snap rings on the clutch on and get the sump off finally.

Todays efforts:

Removed bracket and engine mount from exhaust side off NA
Removed transmission
Removed clutch
Installed RPS clutch (with new snap rings, throw out bearing)
Removed sump/oil pickup and baffle
Probably other shit too!

Well list isn't huge, but took a little time, clutch install was pretty easy apart from stupid snap rings, so hard to get on, but got there! (yes i used new ones)

And finally got sump off, thank god, now just have to send it off to get swapped.

Only thing that feels different when I installed clutch was the clutch fork, when the stock unit was in there I could move it back and forward and the clutch would move, but now It doesn't??? Maybe the clutch cover has to be hooked up to the flywheel so it can engage properly first?

Anyway here are a huge amount of pics as usual, anyone recommend what sort of grease to use on transmission spline and clutch fork, maybe thats why the fork won't move that well.

Clutch and flywheel looked in good nic, I'm no mechanic but it seems to have a lot of meat on it. Also can anyone tell if this is exactly the same as the TT clutch, doesn't worry me, but good to know, seems to look the same. Clutch/Pressure plate and dual mass flywheel will be for sale soon too.

Felt like I learnt a lot today, a big thanks to my mate Ben for getting me through the last hour of work today, also got leand of torque wrench, getting airgun next weekend for timing belt and cam gear install.

Transmission off!
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Stock flywheel
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Stock clutch

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Stock pressure plate

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[98SZR]

Clutch out
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Stock clutch plate

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RPS clutch in

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Sump fianlly off!

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[98SZR]

Crankage!

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Any hints and tips welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[98SZR]

Project update:

Last night was shit, only swapped rear main seal, put in pilot bearing.
Attempted to get crank bolt off with no luck, also attempted to use one aristo bracket with supra mount, found out that won't work, also rounded a bolt on one of the aristo engine bracket mounts.

Also to get to one of the bolts I have to remove the oil filter/cooler assembly.

Oh and dual mass flywheel is off the GE, those things are heavy!
SO sort of stuck atmo, any help or tips appriciated!

[98SZR]

Got all the bolts off engine bracket except one, it is totally rounded and will need to be drilled out, always the last bolt, stupid shit.
My mate didn't come on Sunday because he was a bit sick/hung over so no progress on timing belt and water pump, hopefully will be done next weekend, also realised the oil return pipe is on an angle with the GE sump so will need custom hose for that too.

Just these small things I need to get done before I can test fit and then hook the transmission up with Harley's loom and get this bitch back on the road, sick of it sitting in the shed.

Main rear seal and pilot/spigot bearing replaced
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Dual Mass flywheel (top plate is off aristo engine, used for autos)
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All the parts :)
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Titan cam gear (also a little off centre, by like .05, shouldn't make much difference)

[98SZR]

Needs a clean!
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Also someone let me know if I am posting too many pics!
Just like to help others see whats there!

That was my last 3 weekends worth of updates :)

[Norbie]

Also someone let me know if I am posting too many pics!
Just like to help others see whats there!
It might be helpful to post just a few highlights, then a link to a webpage with the rest of the photos. Not everyone wants to see the whole lot at once.

Coming along nicely though. :)

[98SZR]

It might be helpful to post just a few highlights, then a link to a webpage with the rest of the photos. Not everyone wants to see the whole lot at once.

Coming along nicely though. :)

Ok no worries mate, will trim up tonight.

Yes coming along.

[98SZR]

Thought it was time to update this thread as I forgot about it! Well the project is finished since my last post way back in March! Thought I'd share some pics of the rest of the build, didn't run into too many troubles.

-Turbo return drain hole drilled and studs added on sump, sump then put on
-Engine mounts and brackets put on
-Aftermarket Flywheel and clutch installed
-Water pump, titan cam gear, power enterprise timing belt installed
-Stock injectors and rail installed
-All accesories put back on (PS pump etc etc)
-Clutch master cylinder heat shield installed
-EFI2 wiring and other fuse box pins added/soldered
-The body loom was basically the same apart from a few differences like the trac control and advanced abs, so modified a little
-Oxygen sensor rewired to fit supra plug
-Brought water remp sender as aristo 2jz doesn't one.
-Engine and gearbox finally installed!
-Radiator and FMIC installed
-Hooked up tune agent dump pipe and trust exhaust system
-Plugged everything up, all earths, add and bleed all fluids that were needed
-Started up :) First time clicked over! YAY! was running crap though.
-Compression test and spark plugs changed 156psi over all 6 (Cold crank) one was down a little, at 150 odd. Car then ran great!
-Installed HKS intake (Couldn't find stock unti as the vvti with the afm bung are hard to find)
-12V Fuel mod
-Blitz boost contoller installed sbc-id III

Thanks to supraforums members:
Silver GZ-(Curtis)- Basically guided me through anything I didn't know about mechanically and anything supra related! With you mate I think I'd be still scratching my head on some things, I really have learn't shitloads from you! Big thumbs up to all your help!

JZA70 Limited (Dave)- The wiring guru Thanks for all your wiring hints, tips and very helpful instructions and explinations on electrical systems, turned out to be fairly straight foward wiring in the end but you were a big help and made sure everything was done to or close to spec, once again more knowledge into my brain as I learnt heaps more once again!

KGB (Keith)- Another very helpful mech on hand, gave me advice on a lot of little things that are a pain in the arse to do, also gave some great tips on painting and general things to do with the conversion, big thanks to you mate.

DRIFTR (Stu)- Thanks for some of the photos and tips, also measuring that damn master clutch cylinder heat shield hole depth, great having info off people who have done it before.

All supraforums.com.au members who have contributed to this thread and gave me advice through PM's, SMS, Phone calls, and general replies you have really been a great help.

Any vendors I have brought stuff off, like Aaron (Nakedterror) at Rampant performance, allways on the lookout for the rare shit I'm always trying to find, also Nengun, Kinway and a few others.

Also big thanks to my mates who helped me out and lent me tools, Dan, Jason, Ben, Joel (Slow2j), Josh, Gavan and anyone else! Also a huge thanks to the Mrs for putting up with all the swearing, greasy hands, hot food, alcohol and running around everywhere for me! xoxox

PROJECT COSTS

Blitz FMIC: $1331.98
Radiator: $350
Aftermarket Clutch and flywheel including all OEM parts: $1978
Whole exhaust system $450
OEM Gear Second hand: $330
OEM Gear new from toyota: $752.40
Misc (Wiring, parts, cleaning): $416
Engine and other parts: $3836
(This includes, engine, intake, titan cam gear, kevlar timing belt, loom, injectors, radiator pipe)

So for an aftermarket parts conversion with aristo sump and loom swap total project cost was:

$9444.38

Minus sold products such as previous engine and exhaust etc

$1582

Total Project

$9444.38
- $1582

= $7862.38

So your looking at around $8000 for total project cost by doing the work yourself, you must take into account I used almost $4000 in aftermarket parts, also give or take a few beers and extra misc costs.

I haven't added up any parts that weren't needed for the project like boost controller or strut brace etc.

So I'm pretty happy with the outcome and to keep within my own set budget. I've really just proved a point that if I had of sold my car and went for a 1998 RZ with FMIC, full exhaust and a few other things I'd be pushing my luck finding one for around $29000 with less than 60,000km. So I'm happy

Current Power: 260rwkw at 16.6psi (Boost cut), 257rwkw at 15.2psi.

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More pics and dyno result can be found here: http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?p=563603#post563603

[5000gt]

probably worth a mention that an n/a to TT conversion is only worth the time and money when you get such a mint late model for such little money to start with.... but then again.... with the values quickly dropping, it may change in the near future.

[98SZR]

probably worth a mention that an n/a to TT conversion is only worth the time and money when you get such a mint late model for such little money to start with.... but then again.... with the values quickly dropping, it may change in the near future.

Yes I agree, I picked this up probably almost 2 years ago for a great price $21000, with less than 50k on the clock, can't verify that it was genuine but could at least see by the condtion of the car.

Also I did all the work myself apart from a few tiny things that mates helped out with for a few beers :) This saved a heap of money, also thanks for the the sump swap too 5000gt!