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Bullfrog
07-11-2006, 11:23 AM
Hi all,
Finally my projest is under way
Extra cab hilux 4wd RN 110 1GGZE conversion
i have owned this ute for about 6 years now running on duel fuel and am finally doing a conversion am so over the 22r especially on gas! .
So after tossing up between what engine to use i finally decided on staying with toyota and got my hands on a 1ggze pretty cheap ecu loom bell housing mounts and flywheel (engine was auto origanally as the guy i bought it from imported it for a project but never got around to it but bought most of the bits.) which makes it easier for me .
Am currently sorting out the wiring as i want this to be a quick changeover as the car is my daily driver so hoepfully will have everything sorted as much as possible before i swap engines over. although i dont have a gze wiring diagram (if any one has one it would be awesome) but am coping so far with the gte diagrams a couple of differences but pretty much the same.
Just thought introduce myself and say a big hello and thank you to everyone here at toymods as i have been go through your forums and found so much information so far .
but if any one has any info that they would like to pass on and think it will help.
i will post some pics as i go here is engine currently
Bullfrog
08-11-2006, 09:40 PM
Need some help.
Has anyone got a wiring diagram for the gen 3 1ggze or knows what the IPE pin is for I have found a link for it with sixworks but site doesnt work , And cant find it anywhere on the forum.
I am not sure but as far as i can tell the turbo model has an indicator light on the dash and as this is the same pinout on the gze i assume it is for the same sort of thing but not sure.
infotechplus
12-11-2006, 07:05 PM
I'm doing a 1G-GZE (3rd Gen, 70,000kms) into a RN85 2WD.
I've got a couple of 3Y engine mounts as recommended and the two top holes line up but the bottom two don't so I assume you have to re-drill. Also having trouble finding a flywheel. The 2T-GE lines up for the bolt holes and diameter but I'm told the contact area is too small for the power of the 1G.
I'm using the original clutch from the 22R but will be buying new Exedy Sports Tuff version to replace the standard one.
How far have you gone with the conversion? I'd like to talk to you about some of the issues involved in this swap.
I have Gen 3 pinouts for the GTE if required.
Regards,
Peter
brett_celicacoupe
12-11-2006, 08:08 PM
pull the lid off the ECU, most of the pins are labelled on the PCB board
turmite
12-11-2006, 08:12 PM
Im fairly new to this stuff and require a 1ggte wiring diagram/ ecu pin out, if you could help would be awsome as this is my ride and im sick of walking!
brett_celicacoupe
12-11-2006, 08:16 PM
search for 1ggte wiring diagrams.
i posted them all up not that long ago
http://members.optushome.com.au/mkhala/red_celica/1G-GTE_info/
im going to be putting a 1ggte into my YN55 2wd so im interested to see how this goes.although, will be a totally different ball game with mine since its a lot older.
brett_celicacoupe
12-11-2006, 09:03 PM
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10548&highlight=1ggte
Bullfrog
12-11-2006, 09:54 PM
thanks guys but i already have the gte wiring and have gotten most of my wiring sorted from that info.
Its the IPE wire that has me stumped still so if anybody has any idea's
infotechplus would be happy to share ideas with you but am still in the how the &^%$ am i going get this done !!! stage with conversion not enough hours in the day at the moment.
not sure on the clutch or flywheel yet sorry . when i bought the engine it had a flywheel on it so i have no idea what its off i am just going to take it to a clutch joint and get them to match it up and if it doesnt hold up ill change it then .
i believe the diesel clutch has been used by a bloke in w.a. but that was with an 80's model 4runner and he used 22r mounts.
what was the outer diameter of your contact area ?
turmite
12-11-2006, 09:57 PM
search for 1ggte wiring diagrams.
i posted them all up not that long ago
thanx man!
turmite
12-11-2006, 10:00 PM
http://members.optushome.com.au/mkhala/red_celica/1G-GTE_info/
im going to be putting a 1ggte into my YN55 2wd so im interested to see how this goes.although, will be a totally different ball game with mine since its a lot older.
Ill let you know how it goes, but so far so good
infotechplus
12-11-2006, 10:32 PM
thanks guys but i already have the gte wiring and have gotten most of my wiring sorted from that info.
Its the IPE wire that has me stumped still so if anybody has any idea's
infotechplus would be happy to share ideas with you but am still in the how the &^%$ am i going get this done !!! stage with conversion not enough hours in the day at the moment.
not sure on the clutch or flywheel yet sorry . when i bought the engine it had a flywheel on it so i have no idea what its off i am just going to take it to a clutch joint and get them to match it up and if it doesnt hold up ill change it then .
i believe the diesel clutch has been used by a bloke in w.a. but that was with an 80's model 4runner and he used 22r mounts.
what was the outer diameter of your contact area ?
Contact area of original 22R flywheel is 41mm., with 298mm diameter (tooth to tooth), 41mm centre opening, and 63mm spacing between opposite bolts.
The 1G requires 57mm bolt spacing and a 37mm centre opening.
I've extracted the 1GGZE wiring diagram from the Japanese only manual. The IPE wire is labelled there. Does it help you?
Peter
Bullfrog
12-11-2006, 11:01 PM
thanks infotech yeh i have that one but still no good thats the gen 1 or 2 wiring i think.
I went to the wreckers today to try and find some plugs for the wiring loom as it only had the male side for most of them and i want it to look as original as possible and was suprised to find that 92 cressida with 7m has same wiring to ecu and all the other plugs match up ok some wires are different in spots in the plugs but thats easy to change.
clutch info geez im a dumb arse sometimes
"The 2T-GE lines up for the bolt holes and diameter but I'm told the contact area is too small for the power of the 1G.
I'm using the original clutch from the 22R but will be buying new Exedy Sports Tuff version to replace the standard one"
i am trying to find the forum where the 4runner guy did the conversion his name is sukpupy am almost 100% sure he used a diesel clutch.
Bullfrog
12-11-2006, 11:03 PM
http://www.perth4x4.net/forum/showthread.php?t=840
found him hope he doesn't mind me posting his work up
infotechplus
12-11-2006, 11:22 PM
http://www.perth4x4.net/forum/showthread.php?t=840
Found him hope he doesn't mind me posting his work up
Yeah I also found him earlier tonight and downloaded all his photos from his site just to convince myself that it's possible.
I did a testfit today and geez it's tight in the RN85 engine bay.
I've got a very thin radiator from a Nissan - I think I'll need it.
Bullfrog
14-11-2006, 10:02 PM
yeh when i measured it all up there aint much room left still thats why the invented shoe horns and mig welders.
infotechplus
15-11-2006, 10:52 AM
yeh when i measured it all up there aint much room left still thats why the invented shoe horns and mig welders.
I've ditched the fan blade and mounting unit off the engine, and gone to a thermo fan setup which will give me a fair bit of front area clear.
I'm buying a thermo fan switch which will allow me to set the temp at which the fan kicks in. Much nicer setup.
Got the thermo 14" unit from the local Supercheap Auto store, about $80. They have smaller units too 12" 10" and 8".
Cheers,
Peter
Bullfrog
17-11-2006, 06:17 PM
well i was in the shed for i bit last night and out of the two flywheels i got with the motor one doesnt fit it is a six bolter but holes too far apart and the other is way too small (surface area is abput 205mm) i had a niggling feeling that it was all working out a little too easy. so have to find out what they are off and try and move them on and find a gen 3 flywheel now.
And i still have no idea what the IPE pin is for, Someone has to know.
infotechplus
18-11-2006, 08:09 AM
well i was in the shed for i bit last night and out of the two flywheels i got with the motor one doesnt fit it is a six bolter but holes too far apart and the other is way too small (surface area is abput 205mm) i had a niggling feeling that it was all working out a little too easy. so have to find out what they are off and try and move them on and find a gen 3 flywheel now.
And i still have no idea what the IPE pin is for, Someone has to know.
Maybe Sideshow Jim might know. He's pretty cluey on things electrical. He's in Qld at the moment but I'm sure when he gets back he might be able to check it out for you.
Sideshow's Performance Wiring: http://spw.starkie.net/
Peter
Spectre
19-11-2006, 11:22 PM
well i was in the shed for i bit last night and out of the two flywheels i got with the motor one doesnt fit it is a six bolter but holes too far apart and the other is way too small (surface area is abput 205mm) i had a niggling feeling that it was all working out a little too easy. so have to find out what they are off and try and move them on and find a gen 3 flywheel now.
And i still have no idea what the IPE pin is for, Someone has to know.
You can use Gen 1, 2 or 3 1GGTE flywheels, Gen 3 having the largest clutch face, 1 and 2 have the same smaller clutch face.
Bullfrog
03-01-2007, 08:03 PM
Well am slowly getting things organised for the change over have sorted out all the wiring now so that’s one big hurdle done. It took some time but I think I have got it right (well it all looks good on paper!!!!) :confused: :rolleyes:
And as the mad end of year rush is finished I will have a bit more time on my hands as work has slowed down a bit so no more late night's at work.
Now its time to chase up a few parts I will need.
A great big thanks to Infotech for his awesome thread as he is well ahead in a similar build and I can use some of his idea's so keep those posts coming infotech you are doing great :D
Here are some pics of my lux its a bit dirty as stage 4 water restrictions stop us from washing our cars yeh you can go to the car wash but i hate em.
And as you can see i have a few dints and scratches on the old girl that need fixing up and a descent set of mags woundn't hurt either but having been on many trips with her from perth to townsville and most places in between she has never missed a beat.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/th_hiluxsmall2.jpg (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/hiluxsmall2.jpg)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/th_hiluxsmall1.jpg (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/hiluxsmall1.jpg)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/th_hiluxsmall.jpg (http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/hiluxsmall.jpg)
Bullfrog
03-02-2007, 06:52 PM
Hi All,
WelI have been flat out with work and my other passion has started up again for the year so not much work has been done on the conversion as such.
I have just recieved a flywheel this week from jackel it is a gen 1/2 , so go get a clutch sorted next week then out with the old and in with the new this month hopefully .
I have ploted the engine and car in cad and partly design the engine mounts to suite. It is very handy having a father in law who is a mechanical engineer ( pity he isnt automotive engineer would have been ace when it comes to getting it engineered )
Good thing is i hardly have to modify anything the sump hits the steering arm as with infotech's conversion but only by 50mm .
And the room to the front is tight have worked out i will have approx 15mm beetween the s/c and radiator utilizing the nissan slim radiator.
Cheers Bullfrog
Bullfrog,
Did you end up finding a wiring diagram or just worked it out? Cant find one for a waste spark 1GGZE (gen 3). Having CAS issues and dunno what to do...
Bullfrog
29-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Hi Mic*,
I couldn't find a gze wiring diagrams so i spent a few hours modifying a the gte version. As for your CAS problems im no expert in this area i suggest a good old search through the archives and hope somebody has had the same problem.
Good luck mate sorry.
Bullfrog
29-03-2007, 08:58 PM
Infotech has posted my diagram up somewhere if you cant find it pm me and ill get it to ya.
Bullfrog
08-02-2009, 11:15 PM
ok so after 2 years ,2 job changes ,2 address changes , another baby and months and months of termoil its time to do this bloody conversion.
I've pulled the trusty old 22r out gone shopping for bits and pieces and thought hey lets bolt everything together and make sure i haven't missed forgotten or just been plain dumb .
So on goes the new ( Bright Pink ) hd clutch on goes the bellhousing oh hang on umm ahh YOU'RE JOKING i says to myself, but no the bellhousing i got with the engine bolts to the gearbox but not the engine.
Here is a picture of it if anybody can tell me what its from and yes its up for sale or swap.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/becnads/HiluxConversion/?action=view¤t=bellhouse.jpg
And now comes the i need a bellhousing for a 1g post.
So anybody out there with a 1g bell sitting around let me know, As the lux needs to get moving.
Bullfrog
08-02-2009, 11:17 PM
Also i found some issues with the 1ggze wiring so will edit and update pics.
Pete if your still floating around you never gave any feedback on hope the lux performed after your conversion was finished.
crowncustom
09-02-2009, 08:02 PM
Looks like its a M series bellhousing.
Cheers Brett.
infotechplus
15-02-2009, 09:17 PM
Pete if your still floating around you never gave any feedback on hope the lux performed after your conversion was finished.
Yeah, I'm still lurking around on here, mate.
Can't help you with the bellhousing issue. Looks like nothing I'm familiar with.
As for the Lux and the 1GGZE conversion - was sorry to see it go after all the work we put into it (me, my mate and the Toymods community ;) ) but it was a great package to drive. The power delivery was awesome, the brakes were well up to it, and it got attention when I popped the bonnet.
Good luck with it. It's been a long time.
Peter
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