View Full Version : 2jzgte verses s13
2jizzle
25-09-2006, 09:27 PM
Have completed this conversion over last 5 months. All at home in shed.
Have driven the car once for an hour then the rear turbo seal let go.
Has yet to be dynoed, frys the 225's in 3rd no problem.
Will just post up pics tonight then explain some issues i had with conversion another night when have some time.
ask any questions you want, more than happy to help.
happy viewing
If you like what you see give me some rep so can advertise some of my 2jzgte stuff for sale.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzsilvia016.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzsilvia024-1.jpg
http://http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzcomponents3003.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/moreprogress001.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/drivingin2jsil003.jpg
http://http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzcomponents007.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/moreprogress003.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzsilvia021.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/intercoolermounting003.jpg
Thats a start, i can only upload 10 photos at a time
2jizzle
25-09-2006, 09:32 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/moreprogress012.jpg
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http://http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/2jzcomponents3003.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/moreprogress007.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/feulandrear002.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/drivingin2jsil002.jpg
RObErT_RaTh
25-09-2006, 09:34 PM
Definately let us know how it goes on the dyno ;) Good work getting it in there :)
PHOBIA
26-09-2006, 04:29 PM
Big effort mate, actually looks quite at home in there. Keep us posted. ;)
2jizzle
26-09-2006, 07:46 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/moreprogress016.jpg
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Thats all photos i have at present, so some info on parts i have used first.
2jgte from aristo, bought as engine, auto and computer. Have used a dellow bell housing mated to w58 ( how long this lasts, who knows!) I had clutch made and setup at adelaide clutch services consists of: cromoly flywhell toyota brass button friction disc ( think its 11 1/2 inches)and a mazda cover, flywhell was re-drilled and dowled to suit. Clutch clamforce is 1.3 ton now.
I fitted a atandard type water pump, i cut the centre out of hydaulic type, welded a 4 mm plate in centre and had it faced and machined to suit water pump.
I cut traction control off throtle body and had it machined with barb edge.
I removed feul dampner from before feul pump and screwed a -8 speedflow fitting directly into feul rail. I ran new 3/8 line back to bosch 044 pump which is feed by an autosport engineering surge tank.
i modded top water pipe to match up with r32 rb20 radiator. I have fitted twin adair 9" thermos, the thermos are that close to water pump i had to trim back bolts and cut 10 mm off water pump shaft as when motor torqued up it was touching!
after removing all sequential crap from turbos i had to make twin 2" down pipes to go around steering shaft which then merge to 3".
engine is controlled by microtech lt12s
boost is controlled by greddy profec
Am using and e bay special intercoller 600x300x100 with 3" plumbing and an old hks bov
Car is fitted with jic front struts and tein rears accompanied buy full s14 5 stud upgrade and the 4 pots of stopping power
Now for fitting: I never touched firwall or tunel with a hammer or grinder.
I sat motor as low and far back as sump would allow. I am having a custom sway bar made at present to clear sump.I used r32 rb20 engine mount rubbers and made custom mounts from block to rubbers ( i have made a jig to replicate these if somone wants some)
I used standard w58 geaqrbox crossmember, cut ends off and fabbed new ends to suit silvia.
I had to cut gearstick hole forward 80mm.
In the pictures you will notice i have recessed clutch master cylinder and don't have brake booster as these both fouled on rear turbo.
I moved hole cluch pedal box towards driver 50mm which allowed me to mount cylinder drivers side of firwall and still have clutch fluid feed engine side. The external resevoir i used was made from toyota land cruiser bits.
i used the power steering fittings from sr20 and fitted them straight to 2jz pump, just had to extend feed line. The 2 pumps are mounted around same area on motors.
Since i have driven it the turbo seal in rear turbo has let go, presume it has got hard from sitting for so long, have know idea how many k's are on motor either.
So am going single turbo, gt 3540 to be exact. Picked it up today and e bay special manifold arrived today also. So that is that till i get it running again and on rollers for tune.
It was a hand full with twins, am wandering about the single now?
By the way this is a track car only, i bought shell as a right off and fixed it at home also, gotta love the backyard handymanship.
This is altemate car for me, have great chassi to tune with heaps of aftermarket stuff around and now its fitted with a dam strong motor, just the tranny am worried about!
2jizzle
26-09-2006, 08:02 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/silvia.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/silvia-1.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/silviafix002.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/feulandrear001.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/DSC02052.jpg
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sheepers
27-09-2006, 05:59 AM
what the hell is with the special shape rear end!!
did you get hit? bummer if you did..
nice work with the convo though...
latter,
sheepers.
mr2gze
27-09-2006, 06:18 AM
what the hell is with the special shape rear end!!
did you get hit? bummer if you did..
By the way this is a track car only, i bought shell as a right off and fixed it at home also, gotta love the backyard handymanship.
Hi,
Good to see a neesarn with a decent engine :rolleyes: :D
Looking forward to some lap times and power figures
cheers
sheepers
27-09-2006, 06:47 AM
my bad...
sorry, im a lazy bastard and didnt read that bit.
2jizzle
27-09-2006, 06:48 AM
what the hell is with the special shape rear end!!
did you get hit? bummer if you did..
nice work with the convo though...
latter,
sheepers.
This is how i bought the car, as a right off
big_zop
27-09-2006, 10:11 AM
Looks great, cant wait to see how it goes. Are you going to get it sorted with the twins forst, or go straight to the big single? Also, some of the pics didnt show up, do you think you could check to see whats up? Cheers!
PHOBIA
27-09-2006, 10:19 AM
Pics are fine.....
The gt35/40 is a great turbo for 2J, i think you'll find alot more potential with the single set up over the stock twins so the oil seal problem may have been a god send :D . Can't wait for the tuning results mate, good work. ;)
big_zop
27-09-2006, 10:30 AM
OK, well i am getting a few little crosses in the first two posts (post 1 - 3, 6 and post 2 - 4, 6).
PHOBIA
27-09-2006, 10:32 AM
Ha ha ha good on ya, yeah i can see them now. Could hardley see them between the massive pics. ;)
MR 1JZ
27-09-2006, 10:34 AM
lookin very good dude...cant wait too see it out on the track and crank some tandems :D
Kagetsu
29-09-2006, 05:03 PM
That's pretty impressive.
2jizzle
04-10-2006, 08:44 PM
Fired it up with new turbo today, tested the amount of oil flow to turbo per minute and its twice the recomended rate, so will be adding a restrictor to feed line tommorrow.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/DSC02057.jpg
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MR 1JZ
05-10-2006, 08:36 AM
dude that looks awesome!
what have you been welding with?
Tig or Mig?
2jizzle
05-10-2006, 10:32 AM
dude that looks awesome!
what have you been welding with?
Tig or Mig?
have only mig, waiting for my stuff to arrive from NZ, my tig is with that.
MR 1JZ
05-10-2006, 10:35 AM
goddamn thats some neat welding for a mig!
mad props!
also have you got an alloy steering shaft spacer for the silvia?
definitiely invest in one...made such a difference on mine...
also...
you will wanna invest in:
Rear Toe Arms
Rear Camber Arms
Rear Traction Rods
all of that shit really stiffens up the rear of the car and gives you a crapload of adjustment
usually around $150-$175 for each pair of items
cant spend money better on nissans IMO
Stomps
05-10-2006, 10:41 AM
dude, thats awesome, bit more poke then an sr20 im guessing:D :D
sorry if you have mentioned this before, but what is the car gonna be used for.. drift/daily driver/drag etc... or all of the above... i think there is a few silvias going round with 1j's, even a 1uz but i've never seen a 2j in one... good work mate +rep for joo!
Edit.. just read the track car only bit.. should be sweet, keep us posted..
Stomps
2jizzle
05-10-2006, 12:51 PM
goddamn thats some neat welding for a mig!
mad props!
also have you got an alloy steering shaft spacer for the silvia?
definitiely invest in one...made such a difference on mine...
also...
you will wanna invest in:
Rear Toe Arms
Rear Camber Arms
Rear Traction Rods
all of that shit really stiffens up the rear of the car and gives you a crapload of adjustment
usually around $150-$175 for each pair of items
cant spend money better on nissans IMO
havn't got any of those things yet, have spent last of my coin on converting to s14 hubs and brakes and turbo, will have to drift it like it is, will just weld diff up first.
MR 1JZ
05-10-2006, 01:13 PM
fair enough
you got coilovers and castor rods?
2jizzle
05-10-2006, 01:44 PM
JIC in front and teins in rear, havn't any castor rods yet. Picked up custom sway bar yesturday.
Booked in for dyno tuesday, cant wait!
2jizzle
10-10-2006, 08:39 PM
dyno today found a gremlin, have pulled off turbo. manifold and wastegate, after looking at wastegate pipe off manifold the hole that has been cut is only 32-35 mm diameter and isn't flowing enough gases to control boost.
When car was on dyno it held 10 psi until getting over 4000rpm, then boost climbed as rpm rose, the tunner run it up to 5500rpm and it was up to 17psi, after playing with boost controller and waste gate boost lines he stoped the tune.
I was using a 50mm hks copy waste gate but am concerned about this so have got a turbosmart 45mm progate coming which will fit with twin feeds off manifold.
It made 240 rwkw @5500rpm, 17 psi before he shut it down.
Standard motor with standard injectors, he did note the injectore wearnt at 100% duty cycle, which is a good thing.
Beware of ebay manifolds with this fault, mine come from monster performance, you do get what you pay for, in my case i paid $153 delivered so am happy to modify it!
2jizzle
13-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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That will fix the boost control issues!!
Am also changing exhaust housing from 1.06 to 0.82 to get the boost on earlier
MR 1JZ
13-10-2006, 01:41 PM
hey dude, make sure you put some ultra blue on both Vbands...they leak like a siv sometimes
94Silver
09-11-2006, 02:33 PM
awesome! just register to post that! any updates on how the car is running?
2jizzle
16-11-2006, 01:46 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/psidat/CCF16112006_00000.jpg
runs completed on stock engine, injectors and feul reg.
black run 16 psi
red run 9psi
16psi run had injectors at 95% duty
I only plan on running 9psi to get a feel of car for start
PHOBIA
16-11-2006, 01:49 PM
Hmmm, the smooth 2J power... ;)
Stomps
16-11-2006, 01:53 PM
Nice man, good to see an update, 280ish rwkw in a silvia would be a hell of a ride..
Congrats dude..
Stomps
Sam_Q
17-11-2006, 04:39 PM
very nice quality of work, I like it. I am also interested how that cheapie manifold will hold up.
Do have a link for monster performance?
2jizzle
19-11-2006, 03:35 PM
very nice quality of work, I like it. I am also interested how that cheapie manifold will hold up.
Do have a link for monster performance?
They have an ebay store, thats how i found them
Sam_Q
19-11-2006, 06:39 PM
got a link for them?
2jizzle
19-11-2006, 07:39 PM
got a link for them?
http://stores.ebay.com.au/MonstA-Performance
Sam_Q
20-11-2006, 09:10 AM
yeah thanks for that, oh also what did you use to make your surge tank? looks almost like a truck oil filter.
2jizzle
20-11-2006, 01:55 PM
yeah thanks for that, oh also what did you use to make your surge tank? looks almost like a truck oil filter.
It was made by autosport engineering in adelaide, it is spun alluminium, has a cpacity of around 3 litres, has -10 fitting for pump and 3/8" bsp nipples for other lines
JZA70 R
04-01-2007, 03:53 PM
awesome project mate +rep ....always love a fast moving project with pics!
i like that twin downpipe you made, did that create any boost spiking issues at all? apparently thats a problem with a free flowng exhaust on stock turb 2J...
also were you annoyed when the stock turbs died so quick, because of the work you had to do to make things fit...?
cri_ag
13-03-2007, 08:29 PM
anyone know if this guys is still around? we are doing a 1j into a friends 180 and were chasing some info.
2jizzle
13-03-2007, 08:57 PM
am still kicking just.
Was working away in port hedland when that cyclone came thru last week, won't be forgetting that in a hurry.
mtp_69_i
13-03-2007, 09:01 PM
sh!t good to hear you got through it!
5000gt
14-03-2007, 12:37 PM
mate, i'm interested in your engine mount jig. Got a mate doing 2jzge into s13 and could really use any help we can get to get it going fast. What's your price???
Thanks in advance.
2jizzle
14-03-2007, 01:30 PM
$120 plus postage
5000gt
14-03-2007, 02:43 PM
awesome.... just tell me when and how.
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