Hiace Upgrade [Archive] - Toymods Car Club

teamdrinkalot

14-08-2006, 09:10 PM

I have just finished putting a 2JZGE VVT-I in my 2002 Hiace SBV and she up and running, but as usual I have issues. I have got no bloody compression - 100 psi in no1, 60psi in no2 etc.
I have checked camshaft location (I changed the belt), valve clearances and all OK. The strange thing is that it does not blow smoke and the engine does not breathe heavy. I have had it on the dyno and it only makes 120hp at the wheels, which isn't bad considering the lack of compression. I am going to do a leak down test but other than that, does anybody have any ideas before I pull the bitch out and do rings and valves

hi-ace

14-08-2006, 09:35 PM

If your camshaft/valves are ok, then you have head/head gasket/rings. either way, it looks like it's coming back out.

teamdrinkalot

17-08-2006, 07:22 PM

I just drove the thing from Brisbane to Tara and back and even though it lacks power it went like a train. Didn't use a drop of oil or water and the oil still looks brand new. the trip was 700k's.

hi-ace

17-08-2006, 08:38 PM

Ok, head/head gasket sounds like it's gone between cylinders & your compression is passing from one cylinder to the other thus not affecting the water jacket or oil gallerys.
I had one do this on my "cooper S" when I was younger.
Anyone else got any other ideas?

teamdrinkalot

18-08-2006, 07:30 AM

Is it possible that the head gasket could be blown between all 6 cylinders and not any where else?

jonra23

18-08-2006, 08:35 AM

Have you done a compression test since doing a few kms, if a motor has been sitting around for a fair while it is not unusual to get some suspect compressions.

If you are doing a compression test and a cylnder is down on compression squirt a bit of oil into cylnder, if compression comes up with the addition of a bit of oil the rings are shot, the oil helps rings seal.

If you have a blown head gasket between cylnders will obviously have two cylnders adjacent with low compression, normaly the motor will miss badly, dought you would have done a 700km round trip with a blown head gasket without some major dramas.

regards
jon

teamdrinkalot

18-08-2006, 02:18 PM

Compression was the same and oil down the cylinder only increased compression by 5lb.
I just completed a leak down test and with 80psi going in no1 cylinder could only hold 20psi. With the throttle body off I could hear the air coming up from the valves. I wreckon that the previous owner may have washed the motor and with condensation all the valves may be pitted and not seating.
I tried no2 cylinder and it was worse with air once again coming up the plenum, so I will pull the head off first and get it seen to.

teamdrinkalot

25-10-2006, 08:22 AM

I pulled the head off and the head man said that the best valve was seating by only 50%.
He wreckons that the engine had a huge overheat and it warped the head. $800 later and she back on and has heaps of compression and runs much better.
The leak down tester was well worth its price as it isolated the problem. I used it on a SR20 the other day and you could hear the air escaping down into the sump, indicating that the rings were faulty.

teamdrinkalot

25-10-2006, 09:22 PM

This afternoon the Microtech ECU pooed itself and left me stranded, it completely lost it program. I'm p_s__d off.

takai

26-10-2006, 11:41 AM

*trying so damn hard not to say anything*

teamdrinkalot

26-10-2006, 01:01 PM

*trying so damn hard not to say anything*

So your not a Microtech fan. I tried and did as much research as I could before I chose a system and microtech seemed OK.
Used Motec in the Honda SS. Never had a problem. Seemed too expensive and elaborate for standard road use.

takai

26-10-2006, 03:14 PM

Yeah, its more of a running thing. A lot of the other threads around have the "microtech can do no wrong" fanbois in them.

A Motec probably is a bit of an overkill, and theoretically an MT should be able to do it, if they were able to get it right. Maybe something like the Adaptronic or a Haltech E6X might serve your needs.

teamdrinkalot

28-10-2006, 09:17 AM

Some how I managed to lock out the ECU, anyway punch in the unlock code and I'm back on the road.

teamdrinkalot

08-11-2007, 07:26 PM

I have now done 50,000 k's with the 2J and it has been going great, but still lacks a bit of power. I now posses a 2JZGTE VVT-I, 'think I'll slip it in'

9000rpm

09-11-2007, 09:16 PM

Pics please.....

teamdrinkalot

10-11-2007, 05:11 PM

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teamdrinkalot

10-11-2007, 05:19 PM

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teamdrinkalot

10-11-2007, 05:26 PM

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cambelt

10-11-2007, 11:09 PM

Are you going to run the G55 G/box behind the GTE 2J . have you had any probs with the G55 of current behind the NA 2J , was this the chinese rolin new box .
Dave

teamdrinkalot

11-11-2007, 06:30 AM

Are you going to run the G55 G/box behind the GTE 2J . have you had any probs with the G55 of current behind the NA 2J , was this the chinese rolin new box .
Dave

Yes it is the Chinese G55 and although works fine, it does not quite have the shifting quality of the toyota G55.

I have a lexus 6 speed coming, so once checking the ratios, I thought I'd give that a go. But if not the G55 will have to do.

teamdrinkalot

06-02-2009, 08:35 PM

Well, the 2jzvvt-i is out and I sold the 2jzgte vvt-i and purchased a 2jzgte, and it's about to go in.

Had the engine rebuilt as well as the turbo,s.

I am pissed off because I bought my son, who works for me, a 2.5 VW Transporter and it goes like a cut snake and whats more does 800ks to a tank of diesel. Why am I persisting with my Toyota?

lexsmaz

07-02-2009, 07:06 AM

The different factor is what i enjoy, but to a degree though ...

But also i would hope that you have spent no where near the cost of the VW on the hiace ..

What made you sell the GTE VVTI ?

teamdrinkalot

07-02-2009, 08:06 AM

The GE VVTI was an absolute pain in the arse and I didn't want to have that pain with the GTE.

cambelt

07-02-2009, 07:02 PM

teamdrinkalot

07-02-2009, 08:27 PM

And how has the G55 handled it all , been thru any .
Again do you think you will use G55 behind the GTE .
I acctully bought a spare SBV box for my cruiser if ever i need one but ive had no probs at all with my current G55 .
Dave

The Chinese fake G55 went OK for the 80,000ks but I have been finding a little gear selection problems of late. I have purchased a genuine G55 for the GTE. Hope it goes alright, my son thinks it will all turn to custard.

cambelt

08-02-2009, 12:44 AM

If you dont abuse it and just drive it it should be ok , Id tend to avoid 2nd and 3rd flat to the floor.
Dave

teamdrinkalot

27-03-2009, 07:04 PM

It's running, sort of.

teamdrinkalot

02-04-2009, 07:54 PM

Going good now.

Now I know why they don't put high powered engines in work vans.

teamdrinkalot

02-04-2009, 08:12 PM

Love to put a decent ratio gearbox in it as the standard one has a huge gap between 2nd and 3rd. Although I need the 4.3 - 1 first to get me the van, the trailer, and the race car of the mark.

Any ideas?

cambelt

05-04-2009, 09:36 AM

Top effort with the G55 G/box
They arnt the strongest of boxes and yet you are lugging 4 tons behind one with a motor that makes 400nm .
Dave

nilprospects

05-04-2009, 10:42 AM

Hey man, is your van mod plated?? I've done a 1UZ conv into my LWB hiace and aparrently it cant be mod plated because it doesn't have a "full chassis".

Anyhow, I'm running the G55 box also, it's holding up fine with 450000kms on it, but i feel your pain between 2nd and 3rd!!

cambelt

05-04-2009, 04:44 PM

I thought it were 3rd and 4th that had a gap . My 7M cruiser G55 just runs out of puff in 4th on a average hill travelling at 80 but 3rd is reving too hard.
Dave

hally

19-11-2009, 11:42 PM

ive got a SBV hiace and have thought of this idea, but didnt think it would fit due to the length. Did you have much trouble fitting it, and did it change the location of the gear stick?

teamdrinkalot

23-11-2009, 06:14 PM

ive got a SBV hiace and have thought of this idea, but didnt think it would fit due to the length. Did you have much trouble fitting it, and did it change the location of the gear stick?

Gear stick location and gearbox mount remained the same as this how I planned it when I made the engine mounts.

Cannot run the engine fan as too close to radiator.

You have to do a bit of tunnel work to allow Turdo and Inlet to clear.

hally

23-11-2009, 11:31 PM

Going good now.

Now I know why they don't put high powered engines in work vans.

i have a funny feeling why your saying that, but what were you refering too?? the not handling?

id love to see more pics of the conversion and van.

teamdrinkalot

24-11-2009, 08:25 AM

i have a funny feeling why your saying that, but what were you refering too?? the not handling?

id love to see more pics of the conversion and van.

If you emptied my van and gave to a young inexperienced driver, they could get themself's into all sorts of trouble, especially if they were street racing or showing off.

Mine weighs 2600kg's and when I am on the highway and overtake a B'Double, I have found myself doing 150kph whilst overtaking and boy does the disturbed air from the Prime Mover shift my van around.

hally

24-11-2009, 10:58 PM

teamdrinkalot

25-11-2009, 07:27 AM

Yeah mine weighs about 2500kg with all my gear in the back, thats why im after a little more power.
Did you have to upgrade the brakes or suspension?, and did the 2j bolt up to the stock van gearbox?, were you able to use the stock 2j ecu, or do you need to go aftermarket??
Plus ive found 5th gear in my van on the freeway revs pretty high, and i use more petrol on freeways then around town. maybe because the stock motor dosnt like to rev.

No change to suspension or brakes, although I do use 4wd front pads.
Just had to fit the 2j bellhousing to standard box.
Used the 2jzgte stock ecu, the only problem I am having is that it pings a lot - probably due to the weight. Might have to go aftermarket so timing can be adjusted. And I havn't been able to get the tacho to work.
Yes it is more economical under 100kph, does rev a bit high. I get around 380 - 420 for 65lt fill.

mbm1

13-01-2010, 11:13 AM

Hey bud wot model is ya van ? What is a sbv hiace? I hav a 92 short wheel base 5 door hiace was a 2.4 petrol now with a 1jzgte and a r151 box from a 3l turbo d hiace super custom (the best van box) on stardard ecu goes great and pulls hard with 2 motos and and the gear or with 20 people in it haha but it gets hot somethimes what radiator are you running?