MZ20 - 7MGTE To 1JZGTE Conversion Pics (56K Warning)

[Danners]

Hi Guys,

I received my JZA70 half cut two weeks ago and have begun work. Just thought i'd share Saturday's success with everyone!



The removal of the p00 begins!
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Frontal Lobotomy!
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[Admiral coFF33]

YAY dan ! good work !

Im so jelious :( , i cant wait for next year to come so i can do this too :p

you must be amped :D

[Danners]

Yeah i am! I usually have a really pessimistic attitude when it comes to anything involved with cars... but so far its been surprisingly easy for a bunch of guys that don't really know what they're doing :D

Dan

[Admiral coFF33]

i hope it goes in ez!

more pics would be good :D

Full photo journal of the conversion !

[MR 1JZ]

good luck with it danners...should be a relatively seamless conversion :)

[Danners]

Yeah - I'd like to take more, but needing to completely clean the hands before using the camera is annoying. I'll try and take some more next time!

[kingmick]

good work!

those pics are very good quality mate. clear as a bell.

[Merudo]

oh great, i get a slightly quicker soarer then find out you're going ahead with the 1J conversion...


Well there's a huge power gap now... hahaha...

And your soarer STILL looks better than mine! :(

Best of luck with the swap, hope it all goes well!

[Danners]

oh great, i get a slightly quicker soarer then find out you're going ahead with the 1J conversion...


Well there's a huge power gap now... hahaha...

And your soarer STILL looks better than mine! :(

Best of luck with the swap, hope it all goes well!

Its whats on the inside that counts :D

There needs to be a christening cruise once it (fingers crossed) starts :D

Dan

[Merudo]

Are you doing what some of the SA/ WA guys have done and just dropping the guts of your MZ20 and bolting up all the JZA70 subframe?

[MR 1JZ]

^^ danners has a 91 model soarer...so afaik he wont have too it should all bolt right in :)

[Danners]

Are you doing what some of the SA/ WA guys have done and just dropping the guts of your MZ20 and bolting up all the JZA70 subframe?

Hadn't planned on it, was just going to swap the engines. I don't know if i have the ability to drop the engine with the limited amount of lifting materials I have at home.

Dan

[Danners]

^^ danners has a 91 model soarer...so afaik he wont have too it should all bolt right in :)

I wasn't even aware that I could run into this possible problem!

What year was the cutoff for these changes? Mine's a 90' Soarer.

Dan

[MR 1JZ]

I wasn't even aware that I could run into this possible problem!

What year was the cutoff for these changes? Mine's a 90' Soarer.

Dan

nah you are all good with your car...i belive its 89.5 and later soarers and supras had the different X member (7M equipped models anyway) and the dropping straight in of a 1J is a-ok :)

[Danners]

Thanks! +rep for un-shitting my pants for me

:o

[kingmick]

hahahahahah well that was an intresting circle to the posting.
next some one will say you need to change the diff because the engine sp[ins the wrong way, so you need a revering diff! lmfao

[MR 1JZ]

hahahahahah well that was an intresting circle to the posting.
next some one will say you need to change the diff because the engine sp[ins the wrong way, so you need a revering diff! lmfao

keh?

what posts are you reffering to michael?

[kingmick]

danners! going from happy to shitting himself to happy again:) and ment the diff part as a joke to start the cycle again!
sorry i quickly typed it and prob messed up the context:)

[MR 1JZ]

haha you shit stirrer

[Danners]

danners! going from happy to shitting himself to happy again:) and ment the diff part as a joke to start the cycle again!
sorry i quickly typed it and prob messed up the context:)

To make you happy Mick, all work in future will be done with a left handed screwdriver ;)

[kingmick]

hahahaha and to make sure you get everything straight ill send you down some spare "spirit level bubles" and a tin of "grinding sparks"
:)

[Merudo]

I'm going to need some grinding sparks when I do some more work on my car... could you save some for me too?

Cheers. :P

[kingmick]

no problem!hahahahahaaha

[Pimpin_1JZ]

Don't forget you will be needing the long weight for this converion too...

[Danners]

Don't forget you will be needing the long weight for this converion too...

I've had my Soarer for over 4 years... surely thats long enough :P

[Brainless]

So you recon you will have da banshee in by the end of the weekend?

[Danners]

Plan is to have the 7M out this Saturday, 1J in either Sunday, or the weekend after.

Wiring is to be done somewhere around the 12th/13th of next month.

Then... SKIDS!

[Merudo]

So you're going to get someone to do it, as opposed to giving it a shot yourself?

[Danners]

Yeah

I'm electonically retarded. The guy i'm getting to do it has done 1G to 1J wiring before and is reasonably priced.

[Merudo]

Yeah

I'm electonically retarded. The guy i'm getting to do it has done 1G to 1J wiring before and is reasonably priced.


After re-reading my post i see how it may have sounded like I was having a go at you, I wasn't! Wiring scares me too. :)


Good luck with it all, you'll still beat me to getting on the road with a soarer again, even if mine is already working (October 20 just won't come quick enough!)

[barned01]

danners-grab a freezer bag from the kitchen and some sticky tape.
put the freezer bag around the camera.
rip the hole for the lens
tape around the hole against the body of the camea so the freezer bag doesn't find its way over the lens again or move around too much.
And presto you now have an oil and grease resistant camera to take more pictures of your progress.

ps. the insulation works better in the ceiling layed flat in the house roof rather than still in the bags in your shed roof

[Danners]

Hi All!

Back again after another successful weekend of home mechanics. Here are my pics.

Out it comes...
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Winner!
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[Danners]

Home for a 1J? Next week!
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[kingmick]

Very well done mate.

[rvrolla]

Can I have the skin off my knuckles back now please? :D

[Danners]

indian giver!

[1JZ.747]

Can I have the skin off my knuckles back now please? :D


gold.......

[BlackSupra]

Looking good. :D

Clean the engine bay and maybe even give it a coat of paint while the engine is out.

You will kick yourself later if you dont, goddamn they are a prick to clean!

[MR 1JZ]

Looking good. :D

Clean the engine bay and maybe even give it a coat of paint while the engine is out.

You will kick yourself later if you dont, goddamn they are a prick to clean!

rubbish...2 cans of degreaser and a coat of matte black ftw :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/MR1GGTE/Soarer%20Upgrades/SoarerUpgradesUpdateOne006.jpg

*disclaimer...this may not be the best way to win shows...but its cheap and easy*

lol

[Danners]

We hit it with 4 cans of degreaser and managed to get most of it off.... although i think its a lot harder to clean white than it is black!

Doign the timing belt, changing the oil and filter tonight, picking up the new drive belt tomorrow and also hope to take those cam covers off and give them a nice shiny white engine enamel coating!

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[MR 1JZ]

dont you just love headfucks :(

[rvrolla]

She'll be right! We'll get it out Dan, it'll be out by this arvo ;)

[rvrolla]

Give'm the update Dan ;)

[GU11TY]

conversion lookin good man.

[Danners]

Update!

This was actually done last weekend, but forgot to get the photos off the camera.

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[Robbo]

this is good to read,i'm about to do the same conversion to my 86 Gz20 soarer.
1JZGTe ,manual from a JZA70 turbo-R
do i have to chnge the x-member also?
and is the ecu wiring to the main dash loom going to be a bother?
also,the gearbox's same length?
in older toyota's this was the case,auto/manual g/box's were the same length.
i know the output splines are the same....
wiring is my main concern

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[BlackSupra]

I can only assume you are talking about cruise control.

But good luck getting that to work with a manual.

Looks good.

[Big rob]

Yeah that "speed control actuator" is for the crusie controll. Dont remove it unless you dont want your crusie later! Pretty sure its has like a few vacume hoses or something atatched to it.

[Danners]

I'm running an r154, so i think i might as well just remove it. My boost gauge was connecting into it somehow as well.

Question, where do i connect the boost gauge line on the 1J?

[Big rob]

Well you could get rid of it, if you really dont care about having cc anymore bin it. But maybe wait till sideshow show's up and he might be able to work out how to get it running.
In regards to the boost gauge. You'll find on the intake manifold these little nipples with a black plastic cover. Just plug it striaight onto one of those. if there arnt any, cant find and or already being used, go get yourself a t-piece and put it inline with any vacue/pressure hose off the manifold and plug onto that.

Cheers,
ROb

[EldarO]

Cruise control, which needs vac, the boost guage needs a vac connection to do its thing.

i beleive your boost sensor is infront of your left (sitting in the car) suspension tower, incase your curious.

1JZ soarers = teh awesomeness.

Eldar.O.

[whatthe?]

I dont think soarers have the map sensor for a boost gauge like a supra elmo, coz they dont have a boost gauge ;)

[Big rob]

we do have a boost light though! Just hook a line into your manifold. Simple as nothing else to worry about.

[HyEnA^]

We have almost finished your car mate.

So close I can hear the car idling.

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[MR 1JZ]

traction control unit maybe?

[rvrolla]

Would the TB be different if it was TC?
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[MR 1JZ]

yes

i just noticed that...thanks for pointing it out dan

[Merudo]

I dont think soarers have the map sensor for a boost gauge like a supra elmo, coz they dont have a boost gauge ;)


My one has a digital boost gauge. and it does have the MAP sensor for it too.


Im not referring to the turbo light either.

[MR 1JZ]

only factory manual ones have a digital boost guage...hence rare as phuck :)

[Danners]

Sideshow is here wiring the car right now! Hopefully the beast starts this afternoon :D

[GU11TY]

good ;luck mate

[Danners]

Happy birthday to 1J!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~danners/1J%20Conversion/1J%20Powahz.wmv

[Big rob]

nice floor :)

[MR 1JZ]

*wipes tear from eye*

that noise is beautiful

[GU11TY]

ah nice work dan

[Phyro]

Mate! Excellent Work!!

Started reading the thread late int he game and was gonna kill you if it wasn't in and running by now, even I was anxious. Bloody fantastic work!

[chrisellis]

sweet, sounds exactly like mine did with just the stock dumps on :) u have to drive it without anything else, sounds absolutly crazy on boost. :D :D

[Pimpin_1JZ]

Absolutely awesome mate. Welcome to the 1JZ family ;)

[Danners]

Thanks fellas! I appreciate the nice comments

This weekend it looks as though i'll be mock fitting the front mount. I've decided to go with 2.5 inch IC piping and am having some hassles finding the right silicon joiners to fit. Did anyone else go with 2.5" piping? If so where did you get the joiners from?!

Dan

[chefy83]

http://intakehoses.com

[Danners]

Tried there already - They don't have the sizes i need.

I need:-

1x Straight 2.5" joiners
2x 3" to 2.5" reducing joiners
1x 2.75" to 2.5" reducing joiner

P.S Chefy, you good to come pick up the goos on Saturday? I'll be there all day

[GU11TY]

yeh ive done 2.5 piping
do u wnt pipe or silicone hoses?

[Danners]

Silicon hoses. Doesn't matter now though because i've already found some and paid! I should have them either this afternoon, or tomorrow!

While i was writing this message, they came in... i'm off to pick em up :D

[GU11TY]

haha nice
yeh im after sum aswell
who did you go thru

[Danners]

Burson Automotive!

http://www.burson.com.au/allstores/Stores.asp

[Looonie]

Mmmmm 1JZ... *dribble dribble*

So you wanna send me the old p00 gearbox, flywheel, clutch? :)

I'm sure shipping to NZ would be a snap...

[chefy83]

to late i scabed the whole thing :P

[Danners]

Old engine and gearbox have gone to an MZ10 owner who plans to acheive 300rwkw with it!

I was just in Auckland 3 weeks ago... it would've put me way over my 20kg luggage limit :D

[chefy83]

that guy must be insane! :D

[Danners]

Well...

I figured that i might as well do a semi final update on the conversion's progress. On the long weekend I spent most of my time fixing the power steering, modifying the exhaust and putting the front of the car back together.

Here's a pic of the car all back together and in working order

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[Robbo]

i'm just at the wiring stage of my GZ20 with 1JZGTE manual swap.
what did you do about the digi speedo?
and how did you connect it up?
the supra has an analoge speedo.....i'm at this stage of the grey wiring plug,that feeds behind the guages.

i've wired up the main plug from the engine harness to the car harness.
after the dash wiring,i'll try the aircon harness..hahaha...i hope i have no dramas with that one!

next plug is the underbonnet large grey connector,what did you do with wiring that one up?
is that one basically straight forward?

[Phyro]

i'm just at the wiring stage of my GZ20 with 1JZGTE manual swap.
what did you do about the digi speedo?
and how did you connect it up?
the supra has an analoge speedo.....i'm at this stage of the grey wiring plug,that feeds behind the guages.

?
I'm interested too :D

[chrisellis]

im sure i wrote something about this elsewhere, but i used the auto sender off my a340e.. screw that onto the r154 (goes straight on), take those 3 wires that come off the sender, run it up and through the firewall to where the ecu sits, locate the purple and white wire that runs over from the dash to the the ecu area - connect the signal wire to that, then find a 12v and gound, connect them up and hey presto - speedo :)

[Danners]

im sure i wrote something about this elsewhere, but i used the auto sender off my a340e.. screw that onto the r154 (goes straight on), take those 3 wires that come off the sender, run it up and through the firewall to where the ecu sits, locate the purple and white wire that runs over from the dash to the the ecu area - connect the signal wire to that, then find a 12v and gound, connect them up and hey presto - speedo :)

Zactly! I had a A340e auto box before the manual 7M conversion, which was before the 1J conversion! Screwed the sender from that onto the R154... perfect.

[Robbo]

AWSOME dudes!
thats a great help!

[Admiral coFF33]

depending on how much longer my 1GGTE is going to hold out , i might do a 1JZ soon on my soar :D

Robbo and Danners ... did u both get a A70 manual r154 cut for around $4.5k or should i be saving about $6k ?

[Danners]

depending on how much longer my 1GGTE is going to hold out , i might do a 1JZ soon on my soar :D

Robbo and Danners ... did u both get a A70 manual r154 cut for around $4.5k or should i be saving about $6k ?

$4.5K will easily cover the cut itself. Factor about $700 in for wiring and another $300 for misc parts etc

[Big rob]

plus ahh engineering

[Phyro]

And the beer you pay your mates in...

...it's good to work in a liquor store :P

[Big rob]

yeah phyro, go get me some damn beer!

[Phyro]

yeah phyro, go get me some damn beer!
This from mister i-dont-wanna-play-taxi hisself eh? wait till i got a g'box to be throwin in my car eh? thrn beer for you. hehehahahah
Don't worry, exams are near over - beers will be had on epic scales. :cool:

I wonder if its a viscious circle. you use beer to pay for knowledge. beer slowly destroys knowledge...:confused:

[Danners]

I installed the boost controller on Sunday. Started this at 9am and finished at 3:30pm

If ANYONE else ever does this, please install your boost controller piping BEFORE putting the engine in the car. I cannot stress this enough! Getting to the rear turbo was an absolute nightmare and I even considered pulling the engine out of the car slightly to do it.

[EldarO]

thats usually the case, these engines are huge, then they've got big stuff bolted onto the side of them, and makes for even LESS room!

Coffee, i have a choice currently of 3 1JZ + R154 cuts here in perth for $3.7-$3.8k.

Eldar.O.

[Big rob]

anyone know how much r154 with jz bell housing and flywheel go for? Thinkign of teaming one them up with an aristo cut.

[EldarO]

not too much change from $1500 if i can recall..

not cheap!

Eldar.O.

[Big rob]

ahh still not so bad actually. Especially if you consider the price of a JZA80 hal;f cut which i really havent been able to get hard information on other than really really expensive. So aristo + R154 + robs soarer = mmmmmmmmmmm.

[Phyro]

you gonna hand over that w58 once you're done? hell i'll take your engine too, might even sling a few beers at ya for the honor

[Big rob]

yeah sounds good phyro. Might be a year or so but i guess you shot gunned it.

[Phyro]

Damn Skippy!

[JZA70 R]

Any updates? :)

great thread btw!

[Danners]

I guess! Car has been running well for a month or so now. I've installed an Apexi AVC-R and am looking to get Y-Dump pipes and get the exhaust done properly very soon. I already have a front mount, and all of the piping, just need to get that mounted and the pipework done.... and then i'd like to install my old SAFC and finally get the car dyno tuned!

[AeRoKaBn]

hey danners did u source any wiring diagrams for ur sparky or did he just work it out, im doin the same n its all done i just need 3 plugs wired up, 2 near the computer and that big grey plug near the fuse box. Had 2 sparkies scratch there head it, are those wiring diagrams on 1jz-gte any good?

[Danners]

He supplied everything. His name on the forums is sideshow... send him a PM!

[EldarO]

hey danners did u source any wiring diagrams for ur sparky or did he just work it out, im doin the same n its all done i just need 3 plugs wired up, 2 near the computer and that big grey plug near the fuse box. Had 2 sparkies scratch there head it, are those wiring diagrams on 1jz-gte any good?

theres usually 3 near the computer, and 10 or so in the engine bay.

the three near the computer are the starter trigger wires (2 of) and the "IGSW" wire.

then you've got the EA2 connector next to the fuse box, to power ignitor etc.

and theres 4 wires from the alternator.

1 big fat chunky one that goes directly (through a fuse) to your battery, and 3 trigger wires.

the IGSW wire was the only one i missed and left me scratching my head, until i wired it up, turned the key, then covered my ears from the exhaustless 1J yelling.

Eldar.O.

[AeRoKaBn]

hahaha that woula been loud as.. Looks like u might be a contender to wire my baby up for me?? Pllleeeeeaaase ill make anyone who gets her going a rich man! Im waiting on a pm back from adsport but im just dyin to get this thing goin

[EldarO]

i called adsport when i wanted mine done, but he didnt answer his phone, so with a little help from a forum member, i pulled all the wiring into view, soldered and heat shrinked everything up.

plugged it all in, and VROOM, first time it started.

Eldar.O.

[Danners]

I lost a lot of the photos in this thread when I changed ISP's unfortunately. For those requesting it i've reuploaded as many photos as I could to imageshack and re-edited the thread

Enjoy!

[Danners]

Also, for more info on the car since the conversion and its journey to being a 300rwkw monster, visit:

http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?p=371104#post371104